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An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by perlgeek »

switch007 wrote: post #13
dagw wrote: post #7

Sounds like an interesting solution for back end servers and compute clusters. Your front end or control server has IPv4 to talk to the world, but all your database and back end compute servers that only talk to the front end server can be IPv6 servers to save money.

True, but private networking solves that issue too.

But notice that private networking is more complex. If you want to reach non-public server, either you have to log in into a public server in the same network and then open another connection, or you need VRF routing (ouch!).

With IPv6 you can just ssh into the box directly.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by perlgeek »

louwrentius wrote: post #2

My opinion: IPv6 is used by nobody, nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds and in five years it will still be nowhere. But still, nice if you want to try it out and test with it.

I know of several German ISPs (Kabel Deutschland, MNet) that don't even give you a dynamic IPv4 IP anymore, but use Dual-Stack Lite (that is, IPv6, and carrier-grade NAT to access public IPv4 addresses). Oh, and they limit the ports (and thus connections) you can have open at a time, to something like 1000. I wouldn't want to have such a connection.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by zeograd »

radimm wrote: post #18

Anybody has experience with Gandi VPS? Let's say compared to Linode or DigitalOcean?

not yet on their VPS offer (but that is my platform for all of my future projects). On every other gandi products I used, I've been amazed by the technical aspect and their support.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by JoshGlazebrook »

dspillett wrote: post #20
louwrentius wrote: post #2

My opinion: IPv6 is used by nobody, nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds and in five years it will still be nowhere. But still, nice if you want to try it out and test with it.

If you intend to host your service behind something like CloudFlair it doesn't matter that some users don't have IPv6 yet: they'll contact the cache service via IPv4 and it'll contact your servers as needed via IPv6. The end user doesn't have to care, or even know at all, and you have just made a saving by not having to pay for IPv4 addresses. People will start to care when IPv6 takeup hits critical mass and we start…

I'm just waiting for when we get to the point where there are thousands of users behind the same ipv4 address and one of them gets the ip banned from something popular. I'm sure customers would start caring then.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by pimeys »

perlgeek wrote: post #22
louwrentius wrote: post #2

My opinion: IPv6 is used by nobody, nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds and in five years it will still be nowhere. But still, nice if you want to try it out and test with it.

I know of several German ISPs (Kabel Deutschland, MNet) that don't even give you a dynamic IPv4 IP anymore, but use Dual-Stack Lite (that is, IPv6, and carrier-grade NAT to access public IPv4 addresses). Oh, and they limit the ports (and thus connections) you can have open at a time, to something like 1000. I wouldn't want to have such a connection.

How do you get an IPv6 address from Kabel Deutschland? I'm in Berlin and it's still IPv4 only.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by JoshGlazebrook »

Unrelated to the ipv6 subject, but does anyone else just find the whole concept of "credits" that gandi is using absolutely irritating?

I know that it lists "or about $xx.xx per month" next to the credit cost, but why in the hell even have the credits in the first place? It's easier to just use the actual costs in the customer's local currency than have them try and figure out what exactly a credit/"coin" is worth.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by mAritz »

perlgeek wrote: post #22
louwrentius wrote: post #2

My opinion: IPv6 is used by nobody, nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds and in five years it will still be nowhere. But still, nice if you want to try it out and test with it.

I know of several German ISPs (Kabel Deutschland, MNet) that don't even give you a dynamic IPv4 IP anymore, but use Dual-Stack Lite (that is, IPv6, and carrier-grade NAT to access public IPv4 addresses). Oh, and they limit the ports (and thus connections) you can have open at a time, to something like 1000. I wouldn't want to have such a connection.

I'm on Kabel Deutschland and have a static IPv4. Is that a regional thing only?
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