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CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
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Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#72At this point it really looks like Google have zero interest in seeing Android improve, beyond ensuring it stays superficially in line with iOS or Windows Phone, and will use whatever means necessary to ensure no one else does it while desperately trying to shoe horn irrelevant features into Chrome in an effort to reach feature parity. The clause about no forking with the SDK is probably going to rear its head in ang…
This is complete bullshit, they've improved the runtime and performance in the most recent version among other things. It's not at all surprising that this application was removed would you expect to see an install Ubuntu application in the Mac or Windows app stores?
Wubi still does not support UEFI/GPT systems, but it would be very interesting thing to check.
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's recap. Prior to today, a community-developed fork of Google's open-source operating system could be installed by using an app from Google's own app store (which sometimes bricked the phone). After today, a community-developed fork of Google's open-source operating system can be installed by downloading the installer from the CM website. This somehow makes Google like 90's Microsoft? How many operating systems o…
let me see... google and the open handset aliance advertise an open source OS, that you cant install without voiding warranties and bending to proprietary radio and firmware code. just like pc manufacturers of the 80/90s (bios was reverse engineered from IBM and then tightly controled by ami. it only looked slighly open because IBM was much more closed. same with android standing next to apple.
If I download instructions to hotrod my lawnmower, and then engine block cracks when the head gasket blows out, should I blame Toro for not locking down my lawnmower?
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> that you cant install without voiding warranties So you think that a user should be able install an OS that bricks their phone and still have the phone still covered by warranty? How does that make sense? Is this people's expectation of Google, that if they don't give you whatever you want (at their own expense) then they are like 90s Microsoft?
It makes complete sense because it shouldn't be possible to brick the phone just from trying to install a different OS, and installing software shouldn't make it possible to void the warranty. Hardware and software should be separate.
Hm, at what point is hardware separate from software? When you write some C code that gets loaded on the Attiny85 chip, is that still considered software? Many SoCs come with the firmware already loaded so it just looks like a normal cpu when in actuality it contains a mini OS, graphics, networking, etc, all on a single QFN-72 package.
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> that you cant install without voiding warranties So you think that a user should be able install an OS that bricks their phone and still have the phone still covered by warranty? How does that make sense? Is this people's expectation of Google, that if they don't give you whatever you want (at their own expense) then they are like 90s Microsoft?
>So you think that a user should be able install an OS that bricks their phone and still have the phone still covered by warranty? Yes >How does that make sense? It makes sense the same way that installing Linux and/or wiping Windows doesn't void a PCs warranty. Should users be allowed to install any programs including keylogging malware on Windows computers? Shouldn't Microsoft protect them by locking it down so tha…
> It makes sense the same way that installing Linux and/or wiping Windows doesn't void a PCs warranty.
You need to take another look at user grade warranties for PCs. Many of them are void if the users installs a different OS. Especially if they break the HPA partition where the OS reinstall stuff is kept.
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
What freedoms were lost, exactly?
Besides the limitations spelled out in the TOS and the often reported issues with that, there are the invisible issues with developers not creating products which they know won't be approved. There is a basic freedom lost when you allow yourself (the entire software market) to be subject to arbitrary corporate control especially when there is inadequate competition. It's clear that the terms are there only to serve t…
Being in is now freedom? Should Google allow virus/spy/spamware to run free on their store? Libertas! How different is spamware from software that can brick one's device?
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#77Customers buy a phone. That phone is loaded with terrible, awful, software and unpleasant branding. Customers want to remove that software and that branding.
One way is to use scary software like Cyanogenmod.
There is not other way.
Maybe Google and customers need to start pressuring carriers to stop loading phones with this awful software?
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#78I like how http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ doesn't really tell you what it is or why I would want it.
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#79Google is a new Apple?
Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
>So you think that a user should be able install an OS that bricks their phone and still have the phone still covered by warranty? Yes >How does that make sense? It makes sense the same way that installing Linux and/or wiping Windows doesn't void a PCs warranty. Should users be allowed to install any programs including keylogging malware on Windows computers? Shouldn't Microsoft protect them by locking it down so tha…
It is rare to "brick" your PC by installing linux/windows. Phones are different because their input/output interfaces are limited to a single usb port, and in many cases that usb port doesn't even support host mode. Technically the phone isn't really bricked, but there's no way for a normal user to fix it without cracking open the phone to attach a jtag. If PCs in the 1980's could be destroyed simply by improperly in…
Sounds like bad design though. It's normal for embedded devices to have a non upgradable bootloader that can always be triggered at boot and is able to reflash a pristine copy of the original firmware wiping whatever was later written. iOS does that (see DFU mode), and all embedded devices I design at work do the same. Why an Android device shouldn't? Apple devices are nominally warranty voided when you jailbreak them, but since you can always reflash an original firmware leaving no traces behind, it's basically moot.
NOTE: no sarcasm here, I'm genuinely interested on why android phones can be software bricked and can't have a boot loader like anything else.