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CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by andyroid »

byjove wrote: post #7
fidotron wrote: post #3

At this point it really looks like Google have zero interest in seeing Android improve, beyond ensuring it stays superficially in line with iOS or Windows Phone, and will use whatever means necessary to ensure no one else does it while desperately trying to shoe horn irrelevant features into Chrome in an effort to reach feature parity. The clause about no forking with the SDK is probably going to rear its head in ang…

Did you actually read beyond the headline?! Google didn't remove the app they contacted CyanogenMod about the app being in violation of TOS because it ‘encourages users to void their warranty’ (a totally valid reason) so they voluntarily removed it to sort things out, probably will need to add a disclaimer or something. I'm not quite sure what you find so objectionable, or how relevant is you comment here.

Did you actually read beyond the headline?

"They advised us to voluntarily remove the application, or they would be forced to remove it administratively."

Which is like saying "He wasn't fired, he was just forced to resign".

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by pwnna »

enraged_camel wrote: post #6
nexx wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Made an account just to remind you that Cyanogenmod installer brickled many phones. It's totally normal for them to remove it.

Yep. They do not want the fact that a major weakness of Android as a platform (openness = the ability to fuck up your phone) is being highlighted.

Wait. I thought the ability to fuck up your phone (also known as replacing the shitty UI/crapware that your manufacture forced on you) is a major strength of Android phones?

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by jMyles »

interpol_p wrote: post #8

While I view this move as hypocritical of Google, it does feel like it's in their customers' best interest. Think about it from a less technical perspective: I can install an app from the official Google Play store that voids my warranty . They can't have that on their public facing store. Google wants users to install apps, they don't want them to be afraid of voiding their warranty. It's interesting to see how thin…

Eh, it's actually a pretty weak argument. It doesn't violate your warranty on a nexus device. If google believes in the nexus program, then this is not a particularly consistent position.

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by VikingCoder »

interpol_p wrote: post #8

While I view this move as hypocritical of Google, it does feel like it's in their customers' best interest. Think about it from a less technical perspective: I can install an app from the official Google Play store that voids my warranty . They can't have that on their public facing store. Google wants users to install apps, they don't want them to be afraid of voiding their warranty. It's interesting to see how thin…

Always about the end user?

Like when Apple said that all Apps needed to be originally written in their crappy language, and that you could not cross-compile to it?

That had literally nothing to do with the end user, and everything to do with trying to enforce a monopoly.

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by omegote »

asdfaoeu wrote: post #4
fidotron wrote: post #3

At this point it really looks like Google have zero interest in seeing Android improve, beyond ensuring it stays superficially in line with iOS or Windows Phone, and will use whatever means necessary to ensure no one else does it while desperately trying to shoe horn irrelevant features into Chrome in an effort to reach feature parity. The clause about no forking with the SDK is probably going to rear its head in ang…

This is complete bullshit, they've improved the runtime and performance in the most recent version among other things. It's not at all surprising that this application was removed would you expect to see an install Ubuntu application in the Mac or Windows app stores?

The most recent version... that I cannot install in my Galaxy Nexus, which is barely two years old.

I've been an Apple hater all my life, but this, Google, this is epic bullshit.

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by byjove »

andyroid wrote: post #11
byjove wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually read beyond the headline?! Google didn't remove the app they contacted CyanogenMod about the app being in violation of TOS because it ‘encourages users to void their warranty’ (a totally valid reason) so they voluntarily removed it to sort things out, probably will need to add a disclaimer or something. I'm not quite sure what you find so objectionable, or how relevant is you comment here.

Did you actually read beyond the headline? "They advised us to voluntarily remove the application, or they would be forced to remove it administratively." Which is like saying "He wasn't fired, he was just forced to resign".

You're missing the point, the app is in violation of the TOS, the fact that Google is in contact with the CyanogenMod team about the issues means that it's just an adjustment that is required for it to comply. There have been reports about people bricking their deviced with the app, requiring a proper warning would not be out of line.

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by devindotcom »

andyroid wrote: post #11
byjove wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually read beyond the headline?! Google didn't remove the app they contacted CyanogenMod about the app being in violation of TOS because it ‘encourages users to void their warranty’ (a totally valid reason) so they voluntarily removed it to sort things out, probably will need to add a disclaimer or something. I'm not quite sure what you find so objectionable, or how relevant is you comment here.

Did you actually read beyond the headline? "They advised us to voluntarily remove the application, or they would be forced to remove it administratively." Which is like saying "He wasn't fired, he was just forced to resign".

It's more like leaving when you're asked to instead of being kicked out by the bouncer. It seems pretty clear that it violates the TOS, but I'm sure they'll find another way in.

Re: CyanogenMod Installer Application Removed from Play Store

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Post by devindotcom »

g8oz wrote: post #15

It seems like no matter how blatantly Google carries out it's updated "Microsoft from the 1990's" act there will be a coterie of apologists on HN explaining away it's actions. The Cold War provided an appropriate label for this crowd: "useful idiots".

This was a TOS violation, nothing 90s-Microsoft about it.
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