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Re: Jolla

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I wonder how the name is pronounced. My first language is Brazilian Portuguese, but I tend to read it in Spanish because of the double "L". But that in turn would make it sound like the Portuguese version of "cork", like a bottle cork.

I immediately assumed Hoy-ya. As in the San Diego town La Jolla.

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How refreshing it is with a tech product that doesn't launch in the US first! I'm quite happy that there are more non-US non-China competitors popping up in the mobile market.

I think that might partly explain the advertising, they seem to be modelling themselves on that Central/Northern European, Berlin counter-culture, Girl-with-a-Dragon-Tattoo, techy-savvy hacker kind of thing. Problem is, at least from the other side of Europe, that seems like it would represent a fairly tiny demographic, and I'm not sure deliberately avoiding the mainstream, and going for semi-obscurity, is all that g…

> I think that might partly explain the advertising, they seem to be modelling themselves on that Central/Northern European, Berlin counter-culture, Girl-with-a-Dragon-Tattoo, techy-savvy hacker kind of thing.

woo, lots of stereotypes here..i found the video to be really likeable.

> Also, personally speaking, it's nice to see an open source OS made by a company apparently looking to make money from selling hardware and software, as a product, rather than from leveraging user data.

That works as long as arent very successful and others start to use Sailfish

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Please forward this paragraph to their web folks. Just put it right at the top as a first-read. Then everything else makes a lot more sense.

I'm pretty sure they can't use "Nokia" in their advertisements.

Yes, but there's one interesting bit of fine print in the Nokia-Microsoft deal that gives the runt company (that was the old Nokia) the right to start using the Nokia name again... as of January 1, 2016:

http://followingjolla.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-small-print-t...

Of course Jolla is a different company as well... but we're barely 2 years away from more wild naming-strategery options, for Nokia-offshoot Finnish companies.

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I was referring to physical buttons. Like I said, if your hands are wet, or you sneeze on the screen, or it is raining, or whatever, virtual buttons fail.

I've missed plenty of calls because I was in the shower or washing dishes and couldn't get my hands dry enough quickly enough to pick up the phone. I've also missed calls intentionally because I didn't want to take my gloves off in below-zero-Fahrenheit weather just to answer a call, and I couldn't answer a call with my gloves on. I do wish smartphones phones came with a fallback "answer call" feature that didn't rel…

Headsets always have a physical answer button, if you put one in, you don't even have to handle the phone.

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Might have done better if MS' trojan horse hadn't cancelled it on release...

I find this kind of comments very funny. If Microsoft had the ability to install their moles as CEOs, why don't they do the same thing to Samsung, Apple, Google, HTC, etc. etc.? How exactly does one company go about installing their moles as CEOs of other companies? Bribe and blackmail the board members? You're ascribing Microsoft the powers of a comic book supervillain while they cannot even sell a few million Surfa…

>If Microsoft had the ability to install their moles as CEOs, why don't they do the same thing to Samsung, Apple, Google, HTC, etc. etc.?

It's possible that Microsoft had the ability to "install a mole" to Nokia but not other major cell phone companies.

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"Yol-la" probably confers the intended spelling in English. The word Jolla is Finnish and means a small boat. It's a reference to the famous burning platform memo. P.S. I was one of the 450 guys who got their phone today. Got it literally 20 minutes ago.

Can you confirm it's got LTE _everywhere_? (6 continents)

I cannot. They didn't really speak about it.

However my first impressions as a developer:

It is a breath of fresh air that instead of fiddling with AndroidSDK and having to deploy an apk my first test of their toolchain was simple compilation -> scp the binary into the phone and run it in dev mode terminal (or via ssh from a desktop).

They naturally have a full fledged packaging system like apk but the point is that it's not forced upon us. My phone is now basically (just like N900 was) just a Linux running on arm platform, with fancy UI for consumer usage on top.

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For the people who are genuinely confused, Jolla is a company that sells smartphones, their first smartphone is also called Jolla; it runs Sailfish OS, which is effectively a fork of the Meego operating system which Nokia used in its N9/N900 phones, before they switched to Windows Mobile. This is not very surprising, because Jolla is a Finnish company principally made up of ex-Nokia engineers, including a lot of the…

Did they make the switch to Qt 5 before the release or will the first version ship with Qt 4?

The real question is when are they going to announce a total rewrite of the OS that will obsolete the shipping version. Usually they announce that right about the time the phone ships.

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Did they make the switch to Qt 5 before the release or will the first version ship with Qt 4?

The real question is when are they going to announce a total rewrite of the OS that will obsolete the shipping version. Usually they announce that right about the time the phone ships.

By that reasoning, Android 4.4 obsoleted 4.3.

Re: Jolla

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There have been rumours that the Nokia board chairman Ollila would have chosen someone from inside Nokia, but that largest owners of Nokia (some big American funds, who probably own a lot of Microsoft, too) told that this is not acceptable. One newspaper article (in Finnish) stating this story is here: http://www.itviikko.fi/ihmiset-ja-ura/2011/01/26/kl-elop-ohi...

Hedge fund ownership for the level of influence you're talking about is public information. One can easily compile and compare lists of top hedge fund holders in Microsoft and Nokia. E.g. the current list of big Nokia holders is here. http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/nok/institutional-holdings Microsoft: http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/msft/institutional-holdings Historical data should also be easy to find if someone really…

And the largest holder of Nokia shares has Microsoft as one of their largest holdings...

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/nok/institutional-holdings

http://www.nasdaq.com/quotes/institutional-portfolio/dodge--...

Re: Jolla

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Can you confirm it's got LTE _everywhere_? (6 continents)

I cannot. They didn't really speak about it. However my first impressions as a developer: It is a breath of fresh air that instead of fiddling with AndroidSDK and having to deploy an apk my first test of their toolchain was simple compilation -> scp the binary into the phone and run it in dev mode terminal (or via ssh from a desktop). They naturally have a full fledged packaging system like apk but the point is that…

How restricted are you? Can you get root on it?
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