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Re: Jolla

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Post by Semaphor »

CatMtKing wrote: post #128
Semaphor wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface and load the phone with top Android™ apps." I assume you are talking about this? Because that really told me nothing worthwhile. I wish these (horribly to use scrolling) sites would just give me link that takes me to a half page description that explains in some detail what…

What do you mean nothing worthwhile? Isn't that exactly what it is? A phone with an OS that isn't Android/iOS/Windows/Ubuntu/Firefox? What other description are you expecting?

> Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface

What's that? I can turn my Android into a "gesture-based UI".

> load the phone with top Android™ apps

Performance of non-native apps? Emulation layer or what is happening?

> truly open

Every bit is OSS? Hardware specification completely available? What is "truly open".

The phone is supposed to appeal to geeks/hackers (I think?), so why does the whole website seem to be something that Apple could have done?

Re: Jolla

#132

Post by Brakenshire »

salient wrote: post #127
Brakenshire wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the people who are genuinely confused, Jolla is a company that sells smartphones, their first smartphone is also called Jolla; it runs Sailfish OS, which is effectively a fork of the Meego operating system which Nokia used in its N9/N900 phones, before they switched to Windows Mobile. This is not very surprising, because Jolla is a Finnish company principally made up of ex-Nokia engineers, including a lot of the…

Didn't N900 run Maemo? Also, I'm not even sure N9 ran Meego. If it did, then it was Meego + Nokia's own UI.

As I understand, N900 ran Maemo, which was then merged into Meego, which ran on the N9, in combination with Nokia's proprietary UI, called Harmattan. Just tried to glaze over some of the gory details for the sake of brevity. Also, Jolla seem to have built their new UI along similar lines to Harmattan (button-less, reliance on slide-from-edges etc).

Re: Jolla

#133

Post by daliusd »

geuis wrote: post #112
Brakenshire wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the people who are genuinely confused, Jolla is a company that sells smartphones, their first smartphone is also called Jolla; it runs Sailfish OS, which is effectively a fork of the Meego operating system which Nokia used in its N9/N900 phones, before they switched to Windows Mobile. This is not very surprising, because Jolla is a Finnish company principally made up of ex-Nokia engineers, including a lot of the…

Please forward this paragraph to their web folks. Just put it right at the top as a first-read. Then everything else makes a lot more sense.

I'm pretty sure they can't use "Nokia" in their advertisements.

Re: Jolla

#134

Post by daliusd »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #85

I value my smartphone a lot, but I find it hard to get excited about this smart phone vs that smartphone. Android, Samsung android fork, iPhone, WinPhone, whatever. They're all good, they all roll out a faster better version every year. They all have twitter, facebook, email, maps, search, a camera, app store. etc. Oh yeah, and SMS and voice calls too. So why should we get excited about this flavour of hand-held conn…

Linux ? (not just Linux kernel)

Re: Jolla

#135

Post by zobzu »

daliusd wrote: post #133
geuis wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please forward this paragraph to their web folks. Just put it right at the top as a first-read. Then everything else makes a lot more sense.

I'm pretty sure they can't use "Nokia" in their advertisements.

I'm pretty sure they can say jolla is the phone, sailfish the os, and that it comes from meego tho. and everything else without mentioning even Nokia. heh.

Re: Jolla

#136

Post by daliusd »

pekk wrote: post #40
davexunit wrote: post #35

Can anyone comment on how free this device will be? From what I recall, Sailfish is partially free software, but contains proprietary software as well which is a real shame.

What is your alternative?

Firefox OS, Ubuntu Touch

Re: Jolla

#137

Post by wildwood »

rodolphoarruda wrote: post #82

I wonder how the name is pronounced. My first language is Brazilian Portuguese, but I tend to read it in Spanish because of the double "L". But that in turn would make it sound like the Portuguese version of "cork", like a bottle cork.

I suspect that people in southern California would share your confusion about the pronunciation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Jolla

Re: Jolla

#138

Post by rjohnk »

I have no idea what the web design of the type Jolla has, but it's getting old really fast. Yes, it looks neat at first, but then it's confusing. Crashplan recently did their update with the same style.

I'll shut up now if I'm the only one bothered by this trend.

Re: Jolla

#139

Post by daliusd »

salient wrote: post #32
networked wrote: post #9

>Jolla brings you the best of both worlds – super intuitive Sailfish OS apps and the latest Android™ apps. The recent article on OS/2 [1] makes me wonder whether such compatibility (which, as I understand, is full and not selective) is actually good for them. Either way, tough, I wish Jolla success; I'd like to see Sailfish OS [2] on an actual device. [1] See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6792010 . The short o…

Canonical refused to offer Android emulation for that reason. They didn't think it would be beneficial for Ubuntu Touch in the long term.

IMHO that's right decision. BlackBerry offered Android and it is low value.

Re: Jolla

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Post by hvass »

Brakenshire wrote: post #95
jasonkester wrote: post #44

They seem to put a lot of effort into telling you things other than "what is this thing?" It sorta looks like a phone. Is it a phone? "Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS." Sweet. How is that relevant? It must be important because it spends the rest of the page telling you about the OS. I'm back here, with honestly no idea what it is. Probably not the impression they want to leave on people, assuming (as a guess) that th…

For the people who are genuinely confused, Jolla is a company that sells smartphones, their first smartphone is also called Jolla; it runs Sailfish OS, which is effectively a fork of the Meego operating system which Nokia used in its N9/N900 phones, before they switched to Windows Mobile. This is not very surprising, because Jolla is a Finnish company principally made up of ex-Nokia engineers, including a lot of the…

Thank you so much, I couldn't figure out what they were offering exactly. ;-)
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