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Re: Jolla

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Post by 001sky »

jggonz wrote: post #50
jasonkester wrote: post #44

They seem to put a lot of effort into telling you things other than "what is this thing?" It sorta looks like a phone. Is it a phone? "Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS." Sweet. How is that relevant? It must be important because it spends the rest of the page telling you about the OS. I'm back here, with honestly no idea what it is. Probably not the impression they want to leave on people, assuming (as a guess) that th…

On the homepage "Jolla.com" it says: Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface and load the phone with top Android™ apps. So it is a phone since they call it a phone. :)

Right now there are 50+ comments that all seem to be some variation of 'WTF'. Whose hardware is up & running sailfish? Or is this more vapourware? The page looks pre-launch still...

We'll notify you when Jolla is available to order... [?]

Re: Jolla

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Post by pseudometa »

jggonz wrote: post #50
jasonkester wrote: post #44

They seem to put a lot of effort into telling you things other than "what is this thing?" It sorta looks like a phone. Is it a phone? "Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS." Sweet. How is that relevant? It must be important because it spends the rest of the page telling you about the OS. I'm back here, with honestly no idea what it is. Probably not the impression they want to leave on people, assuming (as a guess) that th…

On the homepage "Jolla.com" it says: Jolla is powered by Sailfish OS, a truly open and distinct mobile operating system. Navigate effortlessly with the gesture-based user interface and load the phone with top Android™ apps. So it is a phone since they call it a phone. :)

I'm confused too. I don't understand if they are a manufacturer selling the phone directly to customers, or if they are an OEM selling to carriers. It looks like it is different than android, but it runs android apps? Is this another skin for android that is tied to the physical device?

Re: Jolla

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Post by blahbl4hblahtoo »

LrQSs8Dq wrote: post #15
amalag wrote: post #3

So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

It's a phone from a small finnish company with a new (as in not MS, Google or Apple) operating system, that happens to have an Android compatibility layer, so you can run native Sailfish apps and Android apps. If you happen to have heard of the N900, it's the team who made that one. They founded their own company after Nokia sold its soul to MS.

You know, I wasn't trying to be a troll. Nokia is a large business that makes money just like other businesses. I think its strange to generalize them the same way that we do people...

Re: Jolla

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Post by x3c »

jimbokun wrote: post #46
networked wrote: post #9

>Jolla brings you the best of both worlds – super intuitive Sailfish OS apps and the latest Android™ apps. The recent article on OS/2 [1] makes me wonder whether such compatibility (which, as I understand, is full and not selective) is actually good for them. Either way, tough, I wish Jolla success; I'd like to see Sailfish OS [2] on an actual device. [1] See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6792010 . The short o…

As long as their business is based on selling hardware, it might not be a problem. Then they are not competing with Google in mobile OS development, but with Samsung etc. Sailfish OS could then allow them to differentiate from other handset makers, without advertising it as such. In other words, market the capabilities, not the Sailfish "brand".

Would Sailfish also run apps that use google play services?

Re: Jolla

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Post by freehunter »

agilebyte wrote: post #18
blahbl4hblahtoo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nokia had a soul? It was a corporation.

Corporate social responsibility could be thought of as (a part of) a soul of a company. http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/people-and-planet/st...

If sustainability and social responsibility reports are what make up (a part of) the soul of a company, Nokia is in good hands.

http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/re...

Re: Jolla

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Post by krzyk »

thomholwerda wrote: post #34
ye wrote: post #27

So I watched the video, and I still have no idea what Jolla is. I was not impressed by anything in the video, but that's besides the point. If you're a technology company, this hipster crap is ok, but you need to start with explaining what it is and how it's better. Showing a bunch of gestures does nothing - Android can do that.

You have to click one link on the front page to a short summary of what Jolla is. One link. One. Of, you can just scroll down. That's it.

No it doesn't.

Saying that Jolla is powers by Sailfish OS sais nothing, even if it's a mobile operating system. It could be anything from a book reader to a TV.

Re: Jolla

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Post by 1rae »

Pxtl wrote: post #39
1rae wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blackberry has no front-facing buttons and also uses only a gestures-based interface.

And I think that was a strategically terrible move. They're trying to come from behind and they launched with a non-intuitive interface that makes the phone unusable in a demo. You put a Z10 in a user's hands without the tutorial enabled and they're just helpless.

For new users perhaps it is a bit of a leap for them to take, but don't you think they can overlook this fact because they know they are working with a new operating system? Once you understand how the BB10 OS works its nice to use. The same thing happened recently with Windows 8 when everyone had to learn how to use the gestures for tables. The main point however is that jolla doesn't stand out from the pack just because they have no front-facing buttons...

Re: Jolla

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Post by freehunter »

speeder wrote: post #31
Sharlin wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, iPhones, Androids and Windows Phones all have at least one front-facing button, either physical or virtual.

I was referring to physical buttons. Like I said, if your hands are wet, or you sneeze on the screen, or it is raining, or whatever, virtual buttons fail.

I've missed plenty of calls because I was in the shower or washing dishes and couldn't get my hands dry enough quickly enough to pick up the phone. I've also missed calls intentionally because I didn't want to take my gloves off in below-zero-Fahrenheit weather just to answer a call, and I couldn't answer a call with my gloves on.

I do wish smartphones phones came with a fallback "answer call" feature that didn't rely on the touchscreen being able to recognize your finger. I can answer a call on a flip phone with just my teeth.

Re: Jolla

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Post by luxpir »

As a (still happy) n900 user looking for an upgrade path to a decent open phone with modern hardware, I'm hoping that Sailfish gives you command line/root access.

Realistically that probably won't happen in this first iteration, but I've held out for long enough now to be able to wait another 6 months to see what happens. A hardware keyboard would also be nice, the bigger the better, but you can't have it all...

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