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Re: Jolla

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I was wondering why a condom site was on HN, then I entered and saw it was the mobile phone one... Too bad for them their name (at least in Brazil) still sounds like a condom name though. (the most popular condom in Brazil is named "Olla") More on topic edit: > The original Finnish design, with no front-facing buttons, stands out from the pack. Only me find this... ironic? I mean, almost all smarphones now come witho…

Um, iPhones, Androids and Windows Phones all have at least one front-facing button, either physical or virtual.

I was referring to physical buttons.

Like I said, if your hands are wet, or you sneeze on the screen, or it is raining, or whatever, virtual buttons fail.

Re: Jolla

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>Jolla brings you the best of both worlds – super intuitive Sailfish OS apps and the latest Android™ apps. The recent article on OS/2 [1] makes me wonder whether such compatibility (which, as I understand, is full and not selective) is actually good for them. Either way, tough, I wish Jolla success; I'd like to see Sailfish OS [2] on an actual device. [1] See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6792010 . The short o…

Canonical refused to offer Android emulation for that reason. They didn't think it would be beneficial for Ubuntu Touch in the long term.

Re: Jolla

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So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

Is as much android as BB10, in fact have a lot in common with Blackberry 10 like the user interface or being based on QT/QML for native apps.

If you want, is a maemo/meego fork, with a compatibility layer to run Android apps, and won't be surprised if it runs also Firefox OS, Tizen and Ubuntu Touch apps in some moment.

Re: Jolla

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So I watched the video, and I still have no idea what Jolla is. I was not impressed by anything in the video, but that's besides the point. If you're a technology company, this hipster crap is ok, but you need to start with explaining what it is and how it's better. Showing a bunch of gestures does nothing - Android can do that.

You have to click one link on the front page to a short summary of what Jolla is.

One link.

One.

Of, you can just scroll down.

That's it.

Re: Jolla

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Can anyone comment on how free this device will be? From what I recall, Sailfish is partially free software, but contains proprietary software as well which is a real shame.

Re: Jolla

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So I watched the video, and I still have no idea what Jolla is. I was not impressed by anything in the video, but that's besides the point. If you're a technology company, this hipster crap is ok, but you need to start with explaining what it is and how it's better. Showing a bunch of gestures does nothing - Android can do that.

You have to click one link on the front page to a short summary of what Jolla is. One link. One. Of, you can just scroll down. That's it.

is it open source ? Is it unblocked by default (root account) ?

Re: Jolla

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So this is an Android fork with UI improvements?

No, it is a Mer-derived Linux with Qt as the UI toolkit. The OS is called Sailfish.

The Android app capability comes from an Android runtime. I have not tried it myself but the compatibility layer could come from Myriad's "Turbo Dalvik," which is something I heard rumored some time ago, or Jolla might have done it themselves.

Re: Jolla

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, iPhones, Androids and Windows Phones all have at least one front-facing button, either physical or virtual.

Blackberry has no front-facing buttons and also uses only a gestures-based interface.

And I think that was a strategically terrible move. They're trying to come from behind and they launched with a non-intuitive interface that makes the phone unusable in a demo.

You put a Z10 in a user's hands without the tutorial enabled and they're just helpless.

Re: Jolla

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Can anyone comment on how free this device will be? From what I recall, Sailfish is partially free software, but contains proprietary software as well which is a real shame.

What is your alternative?
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