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Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by exodust »

singular wrote: post #239
zedshaw wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, rewriting history. I attacked Mark only after he refused to fix his book, despite my offer of help, and told me to go fuck myself. He'd also attacked many other people in an exactly similar way before I did. I mean, c'mon, all I did was replicate this post Mark did: http://web.archive.org/web/20070418001022/http://diveintomar... I didn't see you calling Mark a cock after he wrote that. And, let's not forget th…

I don't think it's rewriting history to say you were aggressive and attacking, I do absolutely accept that you might have been 100% in the right and justified in that. I got the impression you were being bullying - my whole point here is that I felt I was wrong, and your kindness made me reconsider. My little comments (indeed they are little, I make no claims otherwise) were actually genuinely and seriously meant to…

singular, don't worry, your post was fine. The self-confessed asshole (Peddling Luck vimeo - 34:30) overreacted due to a self-appointed discussion thread-relative moral high-ground.

"Fuck that book...fuck that bad advice, those people are lying... he/she is full of shit" etc etc. That was my first introduction to the Zed, just 5 min ago.

Then, singular comes along and says "I once thought you were a cock, but not anymore, kudos", and that gets a rage-reply from the Joker? Well, that's funny. People are hilarious!

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by exodust »

What was the company? Why was it "stupid"?

I'm keen to hear what it was. Do you know why it failed? If so, knowing that is very valuable information that is not easily taught. Use that knowledge for your next adventure, and maybe share with us here, so we can learn too?

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by tifareth »

zedshaw wrote: post #195
singular wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have for a while thought of you as (total honesty here) a bullying cock (though talented at what you do), but this comment which is sincere, genuine and offered to someone for whom this could be greatly helpful has made me seriously reconsider. Kudos.

Well, here we go again. You'll call me a cock, and then I'll rip you in half verbally, and then you'll forget that you called me a cock and go off telling everyone I'm such a big bad bullying meanie for all the horrible awful things I said to you, and then I'll be crushed by the general opinion all you highly influential meaningful people have about me that I'll... Wait, actually I don't give a fuck what you think. I…

People like you - the genuinely transparent and fearless - are the only ones capable of sincere gestures. The scoundrels and cowards hate you because your honesty makes them self-conscious, so they'll fight you on grounds of "politeness".

Thank you for your honesty. Whether you care or not, know that the people that value it -truly- do (unlike the cooze that reacted on you).

Also, thank you for your amazing coding lessons. Your CLI book/guide is largely responsible for helping me land my current job. I have ADHD:PI and find your "cut through the bullshit" method of teaching INCREDIBLE. I've purchased your Python book and look forward to the experience.

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by digitalzombie »

zedshaw wrote: post #195
singular wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have for a while thought of you as (total honesty here) a bullying cock (though talented at what you do), but this comment which is sincere, genuine and offered to someone for whom this could be greatly helpful has made me seriously reconsider. Kudos.

Well, here we go again. You'll call me a cock, and then I'll rip you in half verbally, and then you'll forget that you called me a cock and go off telling everyone I'm such a big bad bullying meanie for all the horrible awful things I said to you, and then I'll be crushed by the general opinion all you highly influential meaningful people have about me that I'll... Wait, actually I don't give a fuck what you think. I…

I actually like your personality. You're one of the few people that don't take shit and actually stand by your actions/words.

Even with all the people shitting on your online persona, you continue to work, you've produce some stuff that people enjoy (learn the hard way), it's really admirable.

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by digitalzombie »

This is exactly the reason why I don't want to do anything like this.

I didn't get marry or get kids or build any asset because I want a stable career first before I start taking the plunge into starting a company.

Hell I thought about it. And that I can even mitigate the risk to with LLC/INC and I can do it on the side while having a part time or a consultancy job. If my bet doesn't work I can continue to work anyway. My plan was to get a stable and consistence income while having something on the side because it would lower my risk.

Anyway, thank you for posting this and I hope it gets better for you.

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by najamkhn »

zedshaw wrote: post #13

Hey, other comments are going to give you a few lines telling you to not quit, that you should hang in there, and that it'll be alright. That may be true, but to me it sounds like you're possibly not doing well enough to make any of that possible, and you probably need to find work fast. Here's what I want to do: 1. I have a little list of companies looking for employees that I'll send you. Not much just companies th…

I like how zedshaw is moving to HR and job placements. It'd be nice to have a rebel in suits world.

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by abus »

ars_technician wrote: post #247
knackernews wrote: post #244

Don't be the man that fell. Be the man who fell, got back up and kept going. Don't be afraid to ask for help. And please read up on birth control and family planning.

>And please read up on birth control and family planning. WTF is that? Did it ever occur to you that they may have intended to have children? Your comment is not only useless, it's offensive. When you have your first child, you are already bombarded with literature on birth control and family planning. The last thing they need is some person on the Internet making a suggestion that implies their family was a mistake…

This HN submission is useless and demoralising, bordering on cyber begging. At the bare minimum he should have provided details about what went wrong.

The only moral to be learned is the obvious one: don't risk everything when you have dependants who will suffer.

Re: Started a stupid company. Failed.

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Post by tempestn »

Semaphor wrote: post #297
tempestn wrote: post #218

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It still makes for a pretty damned backhanded compliment.

Why? I'd rather have someone tell me what they thought of me and that I managed to change their mind.

I can understand that POV, but I expect you're in the minority. Most people in my experience respond better to "I respect you," than to "I used to think you were a cock, but now I'm reconsidering and starting to respect you."
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