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Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

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Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

#21
Ok, lets keep this astronomical cosmological perspective.

You're are coding on a small planet orbiting a small star that will burn out in a few billion years, taking your planet and all of your code with it.

Is it really of any universal consequence if you're producing VB6 during business hours or building a disappearing app at an overnight hackathon?

I think not. Code on dark matter developers, wherever the hell you are.

Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

#22
Person A just works job.

Job is paid by other person B(a creator)

Person A dies, person B just hires a replacement. World is the same.

Person B dies, company/idea dies, world loses something.

I think hackers want to be the person B and make their mark. It doesn't have to be bogging, running a charity for free part time also counts but it has to be something.

People have this strange idea working a job is contributing, but no it's just breaking even. You just swap work for money not creating.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wary of equating "care little to improve themselves" with "do a 9 to 5". The two are not related.

really? maybe there is an over generalisation there, but i think that people who do their jobs for money often have little motivation, or even reason, to try to improve their skill at work. what they will generally improve at is finding psychological tricks to ease the passage of time, ways to hide a lack of productivity or monopolise the work that they find the most comfortable... practically speaking they get more…

maybe my meaning of 9 to 5 is not clear, but for me its a term that comes from the fixation on time which comes with having a 'job' vs a 'career'

Then that is what I object to. Plenty of people have a 'career' instead of a 'job' and work 9-5. Hours worked is not a great indicator of anything - the guy working until 8pm might have spent three hours of his day messing around doing very little.

Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

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This post makes me think of an article about "the guild of the silicon valley", "guys" you won't see in social networks or events spotlights but make things done and help startups and companies scaling and reaching success. I think it's just a matter of communication skills, anyone with less com skills won't mean he is "bad" and not helping the community moving forward, and vice versa, anyone always on stackoverflow or github won't guarantee he's a rockstar programmer. And personnaly, I prefer having a "dark matter" developer or black hole programmer, call them what you want, who's focused on a long term vision than anyone always chasing for the latest trend. Experience shows that so called dark matter developers are most versatile by knowing deeper how things work and how to build/extend/improve apps. But advice for "dark matter" peers, improve your communication skills, because it will make you a great developer !

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#25
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I am always amazed that people who blog, tweet etc. a lot think they are somehow "pushing things forward". Actually, it's people who write a lot of working code who push things forward. Maybe they blog too, but maybe not. Tweeting and blogging does not mean you are productive or on the cutting edge of anything meaningful.

Tweeting and blogging does not mean you are productive or on the cutting edge of anything meaningful.

Damn straight. Good example is a sizable portion of the crap submitted here. Sorry, I really don't care why your startup-that-will-probably-fail-in-two-years picked Meteor and why I should too. I don't care that you had an epiphany about X and it vaguely relates to Y technology. Just useless noise that does nothing but serves to jerk off the author.

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Am I the only one who thinks that "dark matter developer" does a terrible job of describing its intended meaning? I had never heard of the term and I certainly couldn't extrapolate what is meant by it just based on the name. What's more, it has a built-in negative bias due to the term "dark". As a developer who falls somewhere in between "dark matter" and not, consider me not a fan of this terminology.

Pretty sure that the idea came from this article http://www.hanselman.com/blog/DarkMatterDevelopersTheUnseen9...

at least the current discussion anyhow

Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

#27

Person A just works job. Job is paid by other person B(a creator) Person A dies, person B just hires a replacement. World is the same. Person B dies, company/idea dies, world loses something. I think hackers want to be the person B and make their mark. It doesn't have to be bogging, running a charity for free part time also counts but it has to be something. People have this strange idea working a job is contributing…

99% of the time person B dies and the 8 other people with the same idea fill the gap.

Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

#28
I will gladly put myself in this camp. I will trade dark matter devs for ones constantly spouting off all the time about their questionable "innovations" and committing themselves to 70 hour work weeks while they create nothing products and disrupt this and that so that...gah I'm already getting bored writing this.

Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

#29

" Just because somebody has a blog or a twitter account it doesn’t make them a good developer or expert. It just means they shout louder. " Exactly. 99.9% of developers' blogs aren't worth reading. They're full of articles like "I just wrote my first Go program, and here's what you should know about it!" Please, if I wanted to learn about Go, why would I read something that was written by someone who just admitted he…

Many posts along the lines of "my first Go program" are just forays into blogging. Many will never get past that, but eventually an author will be able to solve difficult problems and then blog about those. For example, Joyent's blog post from a few months ago about building video analysis for Mario Kart was great. It summarized the steps and methodologies used to find the solution, and demonstrated how a reader could do the same. Additionally (since it was a company blog post), also worked in an advertisement for a service they provide. Search for "joyent kartlytics" to find the blog post I'm referencing.

Crappy blog posts are crappy, but some are stepping stones into better ones.

Re: Dark Matter Developers != Bad Developers

#30
post #18
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wary of equating "care little to improve themselves" with "do a 9 to 5". The two are not related.

really? maybe there is an over generalisation there, but i think that people who do their jobs for money often have little motivation, or even reason, to try to improve their skill at work. what they will generally improve at is finding psychological tricks to ease the passage of time, ways to hide a lack of productivity or monopolise the work that they find the most comfortable... practically speaking they get more…

"9 to 5" refers to a salaried position, i.e. regular W-2 work. I'm not totally clear on your connotation, but I don't think it's common.

This seems really presumptuous to me, though. Many people just don't consider anything but regular work like this as an option, as they just haven't been exposed to other things; this doesn't say anything about how much or little they love their work or wish to excel at it.

Some people are just lazy do-as-little-as-possible drones, sure. But assuming everyone who isn't an entrepreneur is like that is more than a little bit nasty and quite baseless.

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