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Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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"Authorize Poptip to use your account? "This application will be able to: * Read Tweets from your timeline. * See who you follow, and follow new people. * Update your profile. * Post Tweets for you." The hell.

I stopped trying to vote after enabling the 20th third-party script on that page and the poll still didn't work.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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There was a streak of like 5 or 6 in a row where I was dumbfounded at the choices. I feel like they're being way too objective here and including people who are absolutely terrible.

Hitler and Stalin were each a Times Person of the Year. They're selecting important people, not benevolent ones. At least, in theory.

I thought Hitler was Time's POTY when he was still propelling Germany out of abject poverty, and before he, you know, started a war. Is my timing off here?

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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I can completely understand your position if you are an American. And I'm sure you can understand us foreigners trying to show our appreciation for a man who uncovered this extensive evil intrusion into our lives.

Bottom line, he's a traitor. Beyond that, most of the laws that helped start this were set into effect years ago. Where were the people crying then? Most people complain about having their privacy taken away when using free online services. All I see are a bunch of ignorant loud mouths who got angry too late.

I honestly cannot tell if you are trolling, but I will bite.

Free online services do not have a monopoly on force. The government does. My choice to use Google means that they will know more about me, but the Google SWAT team cannot kick down my door in the middle of the night and drag me to a black site for an indeterminate length of time because I said something that Larry Page did not like.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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How does Erdogan deserve to be the times person of the year. With everything that is happening in Turkey and all the countries that it defies and steps over. He shouldn't event be on the list !

I guess they're trying to be objective, "Boston Bombers" Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev are on the list.

Person (previously "Man") of the year has never been a moral judgment. Hitler was "man of the year" in 1936. It's a question of who had the most impact -- for good or ill.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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This is one of the more disheartening polls I've seen. It speaks to a new, disturbing dynamic in our social order where people do not defend their beliefs with any sort of force or passion. I had no clue so many people shared in my belief that Snowden has done something great. I figured the media had corrupted most of the people into thinking he'd done something deplorable, because no one has been taking to the stree…

> I don't think we'd do a thing if the US raided his home in Russia and put a bullet in him.

Oh come now, of course we would. We'd up vote the HN article announcing this news. And the more radical among us would surely post a comment.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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I never understand why USAians refer to Benedict Arnold as a "traitor". It's a really stupid word to bandy about in a civil war. The country was governed by Britain. Everyone who fought against the government was, by definition, a traitor. Using a word with such a definite negative connotation in such a complex environment is either disingenuous or obtuse. For similar reasons, using the word "traitor" is also stupid…

I wouldn't call Snowden a traitor, but I think the term is perfectly apt for Benedict Arnold. He was a general in one army who defected to the opposing army. That's pretty much the definition of traitor. That doesn't deny your point that all the rebelling colonials were traitors to the British.

From an objective point of view, you're right - I still don't like the term (or the use-case, rather)...

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Poll 2010: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288... And then it became: http://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/ So probably this year it will be Miley Cyrus...

Wait... Julian Assange won, but didn't? Or am I misunderstanding how this PoY contest works (in the sense that, the votes are symbolic, and Time chooses whoever they want as PoY)?
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