Killing the free internet will not stop extremists, it will just obstruct tech innovation and cost the UK economy, in terms of job opportunities and wealth creation.
UK porn filter to also block "extremist narrative"?
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Re: UK porn filter to also block "extremist narrative"?
#32The government should just provide software for filtering. Not shit registry that keeps track of who has the filter on or off with the ISP.
This is the first step.
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#33Important note for readers from the US: while the UK has a legal right to free speech (via the Human Rights Act, which in turn is based on the EU Convention on Human Rights), it is diluted by opt-out provisions for public health and safety, and undermined by other laws: notably the Obscene Publications Act (1958) -- although enforcement of the OPA against works of written fiction has collapsed in the past two decades…
There is the Tarek Mehanna case. Apparently you don't have to leave your bedroom, or even send a check, to be a terrorist.
That's another great win for Carmen Ortiz, by the way.
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#34Re: UK porn filter to also block "extremist narrative"?
#35Just another great example of the fact that if you let them build a machine that can limit speech, it will inevitably be used to limit your speech given enough time.
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#36What is this? The second post in short order making up stuff about Camerons statements about blocking. I detest Cameron, but nobody is served by making up stuff like this - there's more than enough objectionable stuff in actual quotes from him. The only mention of "extremist narrative" says this: > The Prime Minister: We have put in place some of the toughest controls that one can possibly have within a democratic Go…
We have put in place some of the toughest controls that one can possibly have within a democratic Government
When the fuck did I have a say in that?
Democracy my fucking arse. Plutocracy more like.
Re: UK porn filter to also block "extremist narrative"?
#37Important note for readers from the US: while the UK has a legal right to free speech (via the Human Rights Act, which in turn is based on the EU Convention on Human Rights), it is diluted by opt-out provisions for public health and safety, and undermined by other laws: notably the Obscene Publications Act (1958) -- although enforcement of the OPA against works of written fiction has collapsed in the past two decades…
I wonder, how powerful is the 1st amendment in the US exactly? How does it deal with situations like libel, bullying, calls to murder etc... ?
> libel
As sp332 said, you can say most anything as long as it is true.
> bullying
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but...
> calls to murder
That would be considered "fighting words", which do not have first amendment protections.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Barring a jarring alteration of the existing trajectory, the US will soon have just as watered down free speech rights.
It's worth noting that in the United Kingdom, you can already be fined or jailed for tweeting. Neither of these would be criminally actionable offenses in the US, and the first one especially would be clearly protected political speech: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19883828 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/27/student-jailed-fab...
People are denied entry to the US because they've made a stupid tweet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312
People are arrested for stupid youtube videos
http://www.dailydot.com/news/cameron-dambrosio-boston-bomb-t...
etc etc
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#39Are there any technical details as to how this is going to be achieved yet? Things like pirate bay are supposed to be blocked by ISPs but you can access it just fine if you're using Google DNS.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder, how powerful is the 1st amendment in the US exactly? How does it deal with situations like libel, bullying, calls to murder etc... ?
Pretty much the same as in the UK. There are plenty of exceptions to first amendment protections in the US too. UK libel law is ridiculous, though it has been reigned in somewhat, but other than that the protections are pretty similar.
Except that in the U.S. the burden of proof is on the one bringing the case of libel - they have to show that the libel was in fact a lie. Whereas in the U.K. it is the responsibility of the accused to show that they were speaking the truth. Not a minor difference, in practical reality.