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Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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Nice. Now the question whether Andrea Rossi is a conman will be settled once and for all. I'm looking forward to the first reviews.

Judging by the extremely unfavorable picture portrayed by his Wikipedia articles [1][2], that question has already been answered.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rossi_%28entrepreneur%29

Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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> The ECAT 1MW plant contains 106 smaller ECAT units mounted in a shipping container. Valve for filling the Hydrogen is on the front of each unit, together with electrical connection to the immersion heater used to start the reaction. Not mentioned in the article is that the "immersion heater" required power -- to sustain the cold fusion reaction, of course -- totals just over 1 MW continuous. > Current delivery time…

Source?

Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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post #9

> The ECAT 1MW plant contains 106 smaller ECAT units mounted in a shipping container. Valve for filling the Hydrogen is on the front of each unit, together with electrical connection to the immersion heater used to start the reaction. Not mentioned in the article is that the "immersion heater" required power -- to sustain the cold fusion reaction, of course -- totals just over 1 MW continuous. > Current delivery time…

Source?

Common sense, unless that term is no longer applicable to modern times. If this were something real, we would be hearing about Rossi's valiant efforts to secure patent protection, not customers.

Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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post #4

If it actually produces 1MW of power from a shipping container, even if all other claims were false, I'd think this would be useful in emergency/disaster zones.

You just need a 200 kW power outlet in the disaster zone (According to their technical data sheet).

Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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post #10
post #9

> The ECAT 1MW plant contains 106 smaller ECAT units mounted in a shipping container. Valve for filling the Hydrogen is on the front of each unit, together with electrical connection to the immersion heater used to start the reaction. Not mentioned in the article is that the "immersion heater" required power -- to sustain the cold fusion reaction, of course -- totals just over 1 MW continuous. > Current delivery time…

> Not mentioned in the article is that the "immersion heater" required power The tech data page specifies 200kW input power

> > Not mentioned in the article is that the "immersion heater" required power

> The tech data page specifies 200kW input power

Yes, but you see, that is a marketing claim, not a physical one. If it were true, Rossi would be sequestered with a team of crack lawyers attempting to secure patent protection for his breakthrough, rather than trying to sign people up to buy his unprotected, yet-to-be-built device.

Also, why doesn't Rossi use 200 KW of the claimed 1 MW output power to sustain the reaction, thus removing the input power requirement? This "fact sheet" reads very differently to someone who actually understands physics.

Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source?

Common sense, unless that term is no longer applicable to modern times. If this were something real, we would be hearing about Rossi's valiant efforts to secure patent protection, not customers.

It's not "common sense" to pull a number out of thin air. The data sheet says 200kW.

Also, Rossi has applied for a patent and it was partially rejected. http://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-...

Keep in mind, I still think this is likely B.S., but let's evaluate it based on what we know.

Re: Andrea Rossi has started commercializing ECAT nuclear fusion devices

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post #14
post #4

If it actually produces 1MW of power from a shipping container, even if all other claims were false, I'd think this would be useful in emergency/disaster zones.

You just need a 200 kW power outlet in the disaster zone (According to their technical data sheet).

A 200kW generator can fit on a small trailer. It's pretty common in the electrical generation field to use smaller generators to kick-start successively larger generators. That's how conventional hydro and nuclear plants must be started.

http://www.kohlerpower.com/rental/detail.htm?sectionNumber=2...

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