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Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by Shish2k »

PixelPusher wrote: post #22
orik wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah because how dare any citizen question it's government, right? /s

Are you serious? You can question everything you want as an ordinary citizen. The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word. So, right, how dare the government hold someone to their word? You're basically advocating lying and not honoring your promises. BTW - I basically make a living honoring promises and contracts, otherwise we wouldn't have customers ;)

Yes, if you make two promises, and it later turns out that they were mutually exclusive, I advocate following the laws of physics and breaking one of them.

If you think he chose to break the wrong one, then that might be a valid point, but you seem to be implying that if you were in that position you'd keep both o_O

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by Sprint »

milesokeefe wrote: post #27
ggambetta wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or twitter: ---------- This application will be able to: Read Tweets from your timeline. See who you follow, and follow new people. Update your profile. Post Tweets for you. ---------- SRSLY?

Eh, vote then revoke access to the app.

How do you know it does not immediately utilise those rights?

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by lhnz »

PixelPusher wrote: post #22
orik wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah because how dare any citizen question it's government, right? /s

Are you serious? You can question everything you want as an ordinary citizen. The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word. So, right, how dare the government hold someone to their word? You're basically advocating lying and not honoring your promises. BTW - I basically make a living honoring promises and contracts, otherwise we wouldn't have customers ;)

>> The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word.

It's actually possible to lie or break a promise.

Sometimes the ethics to do so are stronger than the ethics to not do so.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by salient »

tlrobinson wrote: post #37
MattBearman wrote: post #29

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Currently (and thankfully) Edward Snowden has 10x more votes than Miley Cyrus

And Julian Assange had 21x more votes than Mark Zuckerberg...

That was one of the most disappointing winnings of Time's POY awards. It should've been Assange, not Zuckerbeg.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by lmm »

dagw wrote: post #44
beaker52 wrote: post #8

Government: Snowden is a terrorist. People: Snowden is a hero. What a great way to bring this difference of opinion to the fore.

Person of the year is the person considered to have had the most significant influence on the world, but not necessarily for the better. It's an acknowledgment of their significance, not an endorsement of their actions. Previous winners include Hitler, Stalin and Ayatullah Khomeini. No matter where someone falls on the Snoweden-is-a-terrorist/Snowden-is-a-hero scale, they can all agree that his actions greatly influe…

> Person of the year is the person considered to have had the most significant influence on the world, but not necessarily for the better. It's an acknowledgment of their significance, not an endorsement of their actions. Previous winners include Hitler, Stalin and Ayatullah Khomeini.

IIRC those were all Man of the Year. TIME's choices in more recent years have been far more wimpy (e.g. Osama Bin Laden was snubbed in 2001); while their stated aim is to pick the most significant (for good or ill) person, I no longer have any faith that they will do so.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by beaker52 »

lignuist wrote: post #19

Poll 2010: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288... And then it became: http://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/ So probably this year it will be Miley Cyrus...

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan got a lot of positive votes. I imagine he doesn't have same support after Gezi.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Post by robmcm »

tjaerv wrote: post #26
vertis wrote: post #5

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Or twitter. Honestly, It's easier than making people sign up for an account (safer too, since they don't leave an unhashed password in their database)

Ended up not voting because they are asking for way too many Twitter OAuth privileges (including following and posting with my account, plus updating my profile).

Vote then revoke access
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