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Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Yeah because how dare any citizen question it's government, right? /s

Are you serious? You can question everything you want as an ordinary citizen. The moment you sign a contract, specially for the military, you agree to keep your word. So, right, how dare the government hold someone to their word? You're basically advocating lying and not honoring your promises. BTW - I basically make a living honoring promises and contracts, otherwise we wouldn't have customers ;)

Says a guy who sells ads for a living ;)

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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I can completely understand your position if you are an American. And I'm sure you can understand us foreigners trying to show our appreciation for a man who uncovered this extensive evil intrusion into our lives.

Bottom line, he's a traitor. Beyond that, most of the laws that helped start this were set into effect years ago. Where were the people crying then? Most people complain about having their privacy taken away when using free online services. All I see are a bunch of ignorant loud mouths who got angry too late.

It's arguably true that he betrayed the NSA to the people. The big questions here are: Why is the NSA at odds with the American people; and who, ultimately, deserves your loyalty?

If the government doesn't represent the people anymore, does it still deserve the loyalty of the people? A lot of people would say no.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can completely understand your position if you are an American. And I'm sure you can understand us foreigners trying to show our appreciation for a man who uncovered this extensive evil intrusion into our lives.

Bottom line, he's a traitor. Beyond that, most of the laws that helped start this were set into effect years ago. Where were the people crying then? Most people complain about having their privacy taken away when using free online services. All I see are a bunch of ignorant loud mouths who got angry too late.

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Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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You say that like it's a bad thing. Traitor (noun) a person who betrays someone or something, such as a friend, cause, or principle. Damn right he's a traitor, but only a traitor to the US government. To millions of people (like me) he's a hero.

And where were people like you several years ago when the laws were signed that allow the government to tap into network lines? A hero and their army are useless when they're late to the war. I don't honor traitors, but go ahead and worship him all you want.

"muh freedoms"

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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post #6

Poll requires Facebook 0/10 would not vote again

Probably because of /b/'s vote manipulation in previous years. Another reason we "can't have nice things" on the internet -- systems that rely on implicit codes of civility still seem to break down when people can remain anonymous.

/b/'s vote manipulation lead to the selection of moot as most influential person, which is clearly correct, as moot's users influenced the voting process to ensure it.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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Poll 2010: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288... And then it became: http://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/ So probably this year it will be Miley Cyrus...

Currently (and thankfully) Edward Snowden has 10x more votes than Miley Cyrus

And Julian Assange had 21x more votes than Mark Zuckerberg...

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

#38

Poll 2010: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288... And then it became: http://content.time.com/time/person-of-the-year/2010/ So probably this year it will be Miley Cyrus...

Currently (and thankfully) Edward Snowden has 10x more votes than Miley Cyrus

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Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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No way, I don't vote for traitors. All his US supporters are a bunch of Benedict Arnolds. BTW, just voted for Miley. She definitely made my year.

the traitors are those who wipe their a with the constitution and then clame they are patriots.

Re: Vote Now: Who Should Be Time's Person of the Year? Edward Snowden

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post #6

Poll requires Facebook 0/10 would not vote again

Probably because of /b/'s vote manipulation in previous years. Another reason we "can't have nice things" on the internet -- systems that rely on implicit codes of civility still seem to break down when people can remain anonymous.

I have no problem voting non-anonymously, but I'm not happy that I would have to share my friends list. That's too much.
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