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Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by jvoorhis »

rsync wrote: post #50
RKearney wrote: post #43

So the concept of this is to create a misleading page such that the CEO of a company would be tricked into signing off on an otherwise overpriced service? Towards the bottom it reads: >Depending on the size, this could be as low as 7 cents per GB, per month - which is cheaper than Amazon S3. However, after looking at both the pricing and signup page, it appears as though the lowest you can get is $0.08 per GB, and th…

A few comments ... First, our pricing almost exactly matching S3 is not a secret - it's well understood, and by design. Second, you'll note that the following features of a 10TB account with us are not included with S3: - Free integration engineering (as in, a unix engineer on the phone with you) - 24/7 hotline support - as in, xmas morning phonecalls - two physical media shipments of any size per year - We will sign…

You lost me at "Oh wait." I've had positive experiences with AWS support at both paid and free tiers of support, including phone calls with engineering to resolve issues. (Knowing your account manager certainly helps.)

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by the_real_bender »

RKearney wrote: post #43

So the concept of this is to create a misleading page such that the CEO of a company would be tricked into signing off on an otherwise overpriced service? Towards the bottom it reads: >Depending on the size, this could be as low as 7 cents per GB, per month - which is cheaper than Amazon S3. However, after looking at both the pricing and signup page, it appears as though the lowest you can get is $0.08 per GB, and th…

HIPAA compliance is attractive, as is the support.

(physician's husband and IT support guy)

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by alextingle »

Tehnix wrote: post #40
alextingle wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lying about the copyright date is fraud. That work will (hopefully) enter the public domain one day. By forward-dating the copyright notice, you are attempting to fraudulently extend your limited monopoly.

except his suggestion backward-dated it seeing as 2013 is not the future...

Erm, if the work was created in 2011, then 2013 is a future date. Remember, positive numbers go up. Negative numbers go down. Try to keep up!

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by iand »

alextingle wrote: post #32
hornbaker wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no rules here, only conventions. In my opinion, a copyright year in the past makes it look like you don't know what you're doing. If you feel the need to tout your long history, then put the start and current year, like 2011-2013. Otherwise, follow convention and make sure it always reads the current year.

Lying about the copyright date is fraud. That work will (hopefully) enter the public domain one day. By forward-dating the copyright notice, you are attempting to fraudulently extend your limited monopoly.

As far as I know, this is untested in court for online documents. There is an argument that says that each HTTP request is an act of publication, thus updating the copyright date to that point in time. It's not a view I subscribe to personally.

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

#55

Post by fuzzix »

jvoorhis wrote: post #51
rsync wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few comments ... First, our pricing almost exactly matching S3 is not a secret - it's well understood, and by design. Second, you'll note that the following features of a 10TB account with us are not included with S3: - Free integration engineering (as in, a unix engineer on the phone with you) - 24/7 hotline support - as in, xmas morning phonecalls - two physical media shipments of any size per year - We will sign…

You lost me at "Oh wait." I've had positive experiences with AWS support at both paid and free tiers of support, including phone calls with engineering to resolve issues. (Knowing your account manager certainly helps.)

> "Knowing your account manager certainly helps"

So is this on-call service something all paying AWS customers can expect or only those with rapport?

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by StavrosK »

rsync wrote: post #50
RKearney wrote: post #43

So the concept of this is to create a misleading page such that the CEO of a company would be tricked into signing off on an otherwise overpriced service? Towards the bottom it reads: >Depending on the size, this could be as low as 7 cents per GB, per month - which is cheaper than Amazon S3. However, after looking at both the pricing and signup page, it appears as though the lowest you can get is $0.08 per GB, and th…

A few comments ... First, our pricing almost exactly matching S3 is not a secret - it's well understood, and by design. Second, you'll note that the following features of a 10TB account with us are not included with S3: - Free integration engineering (as in, a unix engineer on the phone with you) - 24/7 hotline support - as in, xmas morning phonecalls - two physical media shipments of any size per year - We will sign…

Okay, but you say it's cheaper than S3. Which tier is that?

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

#57

Post by alextingle »

iand wrote: post #54
alextingle wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lying about the copyright date is fraud. That work will (hopefully) enter the public domain one day. By forward-dating the copyright notice, you are attempting to fraudulently extend your limited monopoly.

As far as I know, this is untested in court for online documents. There is an argument that says that each HTTP request is an act of publication, thus updating the copyright date to that point in time. It's not a view I subscribe to personally.

Copyright is dated to first publication. Re-publication is irrelevant. Disney doesn't get to extend the copyright on Mickey Mouse by re-issuing steamboat Willy. They have to bribe politician for that.

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by eitally »

mbesto wrote: post #44
rsync wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better that a CIO gets a "CEO page" than a CEO gets a "CIO page" :) Ironically, I'm the CEO here and I wouldn't want to see any of these ...

Exactly this. Even it's a VP in a big corp, in their mind they can be seen a "CEO". This is one of those things good CEOs do for their subordinates - they empower them.

It's pretty common, though, for software & service companies to offer a kind of generic (no titles listed) "how to convince decision makers to invest in our _____" web page or whitepaper. Those generally have pretty concise high level bullets with use cases framed in business-speak. This is useful for anyone, though, because all too often the other pages on the site are all couched in useless salestalk that just tries to get you to contact a salesperson for more information.

Re: We wrote a CEO page and it works

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Post by jvoorhis »

fuzzix wrote: post #55
jvoorhis wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You lost me at "Oh wait." I've had positive experiences with AWS support at both paid and free tiers of support, including phone calls with engineering to resolve issues. (Knowing your account manager certainly helps.)

> "Knowing your account manager certainly helps" So is this on-call service something all paying AWS customers can expect or only those with rapport?

You're going to pay extra for 24/7 on-call, but anyone I've worked with who pays a moderate amount for AWS services have had an account manager who reached out.
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