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Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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> We’re terrible at work-life balance. Although work is pretty much your life, we do our absolute best to make sure that work is as awesome as possible so you at least enjoy each and every day here.

Sigh.

edit: oh haha I get it, it's a joke:

> - Annual Salary: Negotiable, but you should know up front we’re not a terribly money-motivated group. We’re more likely to spend less money on salary and invest that on making your day-to-day life at work better.

I was disappointed til I realized no one in their right mind would be asking someone to get worked to death for low pay. See? Joke!

edit 2:

C'mon this is probably one of the worst job listings I've seen in my handful of years looking at developer job listings. This cannot possibly be serious.

In addition to the "We're gonna work you to death" and "We're not gonna pay you what you're worth", there's also the awesome addition of "We don't have a plan and it's basically up in the air what you're going to be doing every day":

> Flexibility adapting to deadlines, changing schedules, priorities and unpredictable events in a fast paced environment.

And don't forget that you should be highly experienced, multidisciplinary wizard who won't mind doing desktop support:

> the (dreaded) GENERAL IT for us here that need help configuring a firewall for a dev kit, etc. Sorry, I know that’s the WORST, but it’s absolutely part of the gig.

This is legit, at least they're being up front with it instead of springing it on the poor schlub who gets hired.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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> We’re terrible at work-life balance. Although work is pretty much your life, we do our absolute best to make sure that work is as awesome as possible so you at least enjoy each and every day here. Sigh. edit: oh haha I get it, it's a joke: > - Annual Salary: Negotiable, but you should know up front we’re not a terribly money-motivated group. We’re more likely to spend less money on salary and invest that on making…

Hey, at least he is being honest. Not talking about xboxes/playstations at work and how there is free lunch, dinner at work.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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> We are quite literally looking for a person that can do four jobs: Web Development, Software Development, Sys Admin, and the (dreaded) GENERAL IT for us here that need help configuring a firewall for a dev kit, etc. Sorry, I know that’s the WORST, but it’s absolutely part of the gig.

Christ. Hire more than one person then. This is insane.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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> We’re terrible at work-life balance. Although work is pretty much your life, we do our absolute best to make sure that work is as awesome as possible so you at least enjoy each and every day here. Sigh. edit: oh haha I get it, it's a joke: > - Annual Salary: Negotiable, but you should know up front we’re not a terribly money-motivated group. We’re more likely to spend less money on salary and invest that on making…

They don't seem terribly desperate to fill the position. If that's true they can probably play a waiting game to find someone who matches what they're looking for.

As for the salary line, either it's true that they're not a "terribly money-motivated group" and thus you should feel free to ask for whatever you want and if they really want to hire you they'll cave. Or, it's true that they aren't willing to pay the salary you expect and negotiations won't last long.

Either way it's really nothing to get worked up about.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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> We’re terrible at work-life balance. Although work is pretty much your life, we do our absolute best to make sure that work is as awesome as possible so you at least enjoy each and every day here. Sigh. edit: oh haha I get it, it's a joke: > - Annual Salary: Negotiable, but you should know up front we’re not a terribly money-motivated group. We’re more likely to spend less money on salary and invest that on making…

It's Penny Arcade, he's concerned with getting too many applicants, not too few.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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post #3

> We’re terrible at work-life balance. Although work is pretty much your life, we do our absolute best to make sure that work is as awesome as possible so you at least enjoy each and every day here. Sigh. edit: oh haha I get it, it's a joke: > - Annual Salary: Negotiable, but you should know up front we’re not a terribly money-motivated group. We’re more likely to spend less money on salary and invest that on making…

Hey, at least he is being honest. Not talking about xboxes/playstations at work and how there is free lunch, dinner at work .

It's Penny Arcade. I'd be surprised if they didn't have XBoxes and Playstations at work.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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I feel like I'm supposed to find this funny or angering (given the context of being posted on HN), but I'm not really sure why I would be. They're being up front about the demands they'll put on an employee, and they think they can find someone who will do it. More power to them. Any developer willing to relocate to seattle and meeting those requirements should have no trouble getting a higher-paying or easier job, so if they take this one, it can only be by choice.

I wouldn't take it, but I'm not so presumptuous as to assume everyone wants the same things in life as me.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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post #6

> We’re terrible at work-life balance. Although work is pretty much your life, we do our absolute best to make sure that work is as awesome as possible so you at least enjoy each and every day here. Sigh. edit: oh haha I get it, it's a joke: > - Annual Salary: Negotiable, but you should know up front we’re not a terribly money-motivated group. We’re more likely to spend less money on salary and invest that on making…

It's Penny Arcade, he's concerned with getting too many applicants, not too few.

I'd like to see a split test on whether it's better to set the bar low like they're doing and immediately disinterest a lot of very qualified people or to set the bar very high and intimidate the marginally qualified or unqualified people.

Re: Penny Arcade web dev / sysadmin job posting

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If this job offering came from just about any other company, we'd be snickering about how clueless their HR department was. Actually, we'll be snickering anyhow, but it's surprising to see it coming from PA. This reads like PA just hired EA's HR dept.

I have no doubt that PA is a cool place to work, and the people are probably nice, but this job posting is pretty cavalier about the fact that you're going to be overworked, underpaid, and life isn't fair, so tough.

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