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Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by sergiosgc »

The next paradigm shift in social networks is the distribution of the social graph. Ten years ago, this would seem unacceptable because of privacy issues. Today, we know people have learned to embrace the fact that once you publish it, it's public, so they do not care about privacy online.

A truly open social graph, distributed so it isn't controlled by a single entity, is a game changer. It lowers the barriers to vertical oriented social networks, which wouldn't have the barrier of reconstructing every user's social graph.

The trick is the transition. It's like we are stuck in a local maximum. Once we move to distributed social graphs we are obviously better, but I can't imagine how this transition would occur, other than Facebook itself having an amazingly long term vision and going all in with this vision. There's a lot to be gained from being the industry leader for 50 years instead of monopolist for 10...

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by argonaut »

coldtea wrote: post #67
argonaut wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.

> You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. No, but he made an argument. You have to judge it. Not everything in life is settled with "evidence".

I didn't assert that he or she didn't make an argument. I'm just saying the argument has no evidence or logical reasoning for it. Otherwise it's just speculation.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by wuschel »

j546 wrote: post #9

lt30.com (if they accept you)

Nothing new - it sounds like the german schuelerVZ (facebook for pupils).

I always wonder what happens to a user base of such a website once it gets older and crosses the magic line - in this example, if maximum of the user distribution gets older than 30.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by coldtea »

StavrosK wrote: post #69

This article surprisingly misses the fact that I want to communicate with my grandparents. Sure, I don't want them in the same circle as my friends, but communication there is important too. There are many social networks who aren't tailored to the older generation, so there's a bit of a problem there: My mom has no interest in Twitter. That's why I like attempts like togethera.com, I think there are plenty of altern…

>This article surprisingly misses the fact that I want to communicate with my grandparents. Sure, I don't want them in the same circle as my friends, but communication there is important too.

Which is beside the point he makes.

You can always communicate with your grantparents on FB.

Plus, on the scheme he presents, you can just make a personal profile for communication with your extended family and grandparents.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by coldtea »

argonaut wrote: post #72
coldtea wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. No, but he made an argument. You have to judge it. Not everything in life is settled with "evidence".

I didn't assert that he or she didn't make an argument. I'm just saying the argument has no evidence or logical reasoning for it. Otherwise it's just speculation.

Yes, the best kind of argument, where you get to think for yourself if it holds.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by shin_lao »

argonaut wrote: post #44
cft wrote: post #13

The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.

This is not a trial or Wikipedia, one doesn't have to display evidence to share thoughts.

Please retort, provide counter-arguments or share your point.

The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.

You are arguing over the logic of an analogy, but what about sharing your point of view?

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Post by bencollier49 »

cft wrote: post #13

The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

A better analogy might be an entertainment venue, like a bar or theatre.

Those with the broadest appeal last longer, some never get off the ground, others shine brightly and then fade.

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