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One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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What's really sick is the personality cult around this creep, even after the end of IAU. I had originally assumed that the "I love Hunter" posts that appear on the Internet on the topic were him-- he's a troll; trolls do that-- but apparently he has real-life fans. It's basically the Shawn Parker story. No real accomplishments, but active participation in the party scene leads to high status. If this current incarnat…

Um. Napster?

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#192
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A somewhat related note is that America's culture of sex-negativity, shame and general hysteria around nudity is a required prerequisite for this type of bullying and abuse. Look at the following paragraph: > Jill became hysterical, repeating, "Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God. No." This is, obviously, the reaction of someone who fears repercussions from others. And this is for completely harmless acts (taking nude photos)…

> A good first step would be to go after the psychopaths who run campaigns like these. A good second step would be to abolish the cultural norms that allow sexuality and nudity to be used as a weapon.

Absolutely. The people who fire someone over simply having some photo online, carry part of the blame here.

But the harassers themselves should all be in prison, and pay their victims for lost income and emotional damage. They are the true evil here, and should be treated as such.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

#193

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Nothing to do with anti Americanism. To 'us' (in the EU in this case) it just seems weird that when there is acted sex and fuck-and-such in a movie during daytime on normal (not pay tv) television, in the US this is considered porn, is beeped away or not aired in the first place. You don't call that prude; while no-one here would blink an eye, young or old, over there it needs to be censored? How is that anti-America…

But isn't that just blah blah and not the point here? The constant boogeyman in this thread is that Moore's abuse based upon sexual mores would be impossible in Europe. I think that is nonsense.

It is part of the point; if it would be normal (which it is here) to see breasts, this instance would not be as big a deal as it is. You would not lose your job for it nor would anyone care or even point it out if it's just breasts or ass. Hence making Moore his business impossible unless he can get spread shots or sex shots; people who take/film those can expect to have them surface these days. If Moore doesn't, someone else will. That's also a point a point here; we live in these times; stuff you take on a digital camera cannot be considered private in a lot of cases (unless you take it off, print it on a non internet connected photoprinter and put it in an album and then purge (overwrite with 0s) the camera and printer). You have to know that before you are putting pics of your breasts (or more) on computers. You'll forget about them, computers die (but the hds are taken out after you throw them away and can be looked at), images get uploaded in the cloud, etc. If you are a prude then make sure your pics don't get taken in that fashion; even this example; why didn't she remove the breast one and kept the rest?

Moore is wrong for not removing images which are contested to be authorized by the subjects, but further; if he doesn't 1000s of others will and do; there are many of these sites a quick Google search shows. He just has a bigger mouth in the press.

In short; get used to this happening to your pics and indeed, I do no believe Moore would have success in the EU. He would have to hire porn actresses to play girls and boys doin' it behind/in the church and make it look real to get any kind of 'oh my word!' feedback here. In that from a limited audience as there are not that many believers anymore.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

#194
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A litigious culture in which courts and police are heavily relied on to solve disputes. That's what the courts ARE FOR. Are you saying you'd prefer to live in the world where Charlotte flies to Sacramento and calls Hunter out at high noon in a cowboy hat? Because it seems fairly clear the "negotiation" option was a complete non-starter.

Courts don't exist to solve all disputes, surely. One clear indication that this is not an appropriate dispute to solve using men with guns is the fact that she had to rely on awkward legal maneuvers (retroactively registering the photo with the copyright office and sending a DMCA notice) that clearly weren't intended for this. The alternative is not to engage in a different form of violence, but rather to ignore it…

> To be clear, I'm aware that some of these victims lost their jobs. I did not mean to suggest there was no harm done. However, they lost their job due to the prudish culture that I originally referred to, not directly by the actions of the villain.

They did lose their job directly due to the actions of the villains. It was an organized attack to ruin some innocent person's life. The prudish society provides them the means, but let's not forget that these people are pure evil. There's not the slightest excuse or reason for what they did, other than pure, unadulterated malice. The nudity makes it easy, but when that tool is taken away from them (it certainly should), there are still plenty of other ways they can discredit, slander or ruin someone.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

#195
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However, they lost their job due to the prudish culture that I originally referred to, not directly by the actions of the villain. Ah, so his villainy is rendered less villainous by this fact? His villainy is somehow not his responsibility, because his impact was indirect ? Or do you mean to suggest that the wronged women, instead of pursuing the man who targeted them EXPRESSLY TO RUIN THEIR LIVES should instead unde…

He didn't say Moore was less villain. He's saying Moore is not the only one to blame, and that can be understood: would you accept being fired because your boss saw a picture of you having a tennis game ? would you accept if it was a photo of a lunch with your friends ? There is no reason a boss can fire you because of your private life.

This absolutely reveals a problem in society, and a problem with employee's rights and employers being able to fire people for things that are none of the employer's business.

But none of that changes that Moore and his henchmen are the primary villains here. Behind bars is the only place for that kind of malice.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

#196
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Courts don't exist to solve all disputes, surely. One clear indication that this is not an appropriate dispute to solve using men with guns is the fact that she had to rely on awkward legal maneuvers (retroactively registering the photo with the copyright office and sending a DMCA notice) that clearly weren't intended for this. The alternative is not to engage in a different form of violence, but rather to ignore it…

> Courts don't exist to solve all disputes, surely. Courts exist, among other things, to solve such relatively petty disputes as whether you were ripped off over a £50 TV, or whether people moved a fence an inch. The magnitude of harm here is clearly greater; I've yet to hear of someone otherwise stable being driven to suicide over a TV. It's not sufficient support for the idea that the courts shouldn't address somet…

It certainly belongs in court, just maybe not in a civil one. It's a criminal case. Well, damages for the victims (surely much more than the villains will ever be able to pay) may belong in a civil court, but these people also belong behind bars for a good long time.

If you're willing to ruin someone's life like that, you do not deserve to live in a way where you're capable of doing so.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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I don't see what I have said that implies I am whatever it is you are implying ... Maybe I am just poking real holes in thus argument and you don't like it so you play this game? :( You are being too simplistic with this nude beach stuff. What occurs on a nude beach or to people that attend such a beach may be different from what happens to individuals away from such beaches even in the same country.

I repeat: you should get out more. You really think that in the rest of the free world being topless is confined to certain types of people on "nude beaches"?

Being topless is normal on regular beaches. On nude beaches, people tend to be bottomless as well.

Still, nobody anywhere in the world would appreciate complete strangers spreading those (or any other) pictures of them.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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No, it would be a hard-as-shit weapon to take away from them. In theory it sounds easy, but culture moves at a glacial pace.

Ireland has been a Christian country since the 800s or thereabouts. It legalised contraception sometime in the 80s, divorce in the 90s and will have gay marriage some time this decade. None of these things are compatible with Christianity as it has been understood for most of its existence. Culture can move very fast. In 100 years if there's anyone close enough to look at us as people rather than precursors they will…

> It legalised contraception sometime in the 80s, divorce in the 90s and will have gay marriage some time this decade. None of these things are compatible with Christianity as it has been understood for most of its existence.

"Incompatible"? No, those things are perfectly compatible. Don't believe everything the fundamentalists feed you. Christianity is not first and foremost about the sex stuff; it's about the love stuff. True, gay marriage is new and controversial, but contraception has not been much of a problem outside the Vatican.

Also, you make it sound like Ireland is somehow very progressive, but they're actually extremely conservative on these things. There are other countries that were Christian long before the 800s that have no problem with any of these things, nor with euthanasia or abortion (within reasonable limits).

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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I haven't had to deal with a virus for some time but the number of times I've formatted a hard drive and started again far outweigh the number of times I've removed viruses. These days, when machines don't come with the OS on a disk - often don't even come with the drivers on a disk - buying new tech could well be the cheaper option.

If you're buying a computer with Windows installed, then it ought to come with a product key. Just download the appropriate ISO from Microsoft directly, burn it to disc or extract to a flash drive. For the drivers, just go to the manufacturer's website and download the appropriate drivers and burn that to another disc or copy to another flash drive. Cost $1 for two discs, or $10 for two flash drives Even better, sinc…

I don't get viruses! If I'm dealing with a virus, it's on some other bugger's machine.

And they probably haven't even created the drivers disk let alone a restore disk. And what sort of idiot downloads an ISO onto a virus riddled machine?

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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Nothing to do with anti Americanism. To 'us' (in the EU in this case) it just seems weird that when there is acted sex and fuck-and-such in a movie during daytime on normal (not pay tv) television, in the US this is considered porn, is beeped away or not aired in the first place. You don't call that prude; while no-one here would blink an eye, young or old, over there it needs to be censored? How is that anti-America…

But isn't that just blah blah and not the point here? The constant boogeyman in this thread is that Moore's abuse based upon sexual mores would be impossible in Europe. I think that is nonsense.

Yeah, it's not impossible. It would be less devastating, but it'd still hurt. What he did is a gross violation no matter how enlightened your culture is.
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