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Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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The new social network should share profits with users who create the content. In fact, it shall only take a small commission, and offer the option to convert the commission to a fixed monthly sum in exchange for the technology services it provides. An interesting idea, but won't that encourage spam?

If there's a 10% commission to earn spam would be the least of their problems. No one would buy anything expensive any longer without making sure their spouse or a friend recommends it to them.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you think of Reddit in that framework? Reddit itself is explicitly a tool for creating, basically, community sites. How closely does it fit with your vision of a tool for crafting social networks? When do you predict it will fail?

Facebook revolves around making people interesting and providing people-based content to consume. Reddit revolves around people finding interesting content and providing it to others to be consumed with some commentary on the side. I'm not sure how they're comparable. Sure, reddit has a community aspect, but it's really just a side dish compared to the content (links).

> Sure, reddit has a community aspect, but it's really just a side dish compared to the content (links).

Maybe if you stick to the default subreddits that are composed entirely of memes.

The main reason that I use Reddit is for the discussion; I highly, highly doubt that you're going to find /r/askscience-calibre conversations on Facebook.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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lt30.com (if they accept you)

Not really sure why this was downvoted - the site is legit and much better than facebook.

probably because it30.com is a squatter, and it's difficult to distinguish between the two - terrible domain-name choice there.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

Does this mean I'm going to have to rescue my data every time a software/network is "retired"?

I suppose this highlights the problem with a third-party owned and run system - you don't own your data! You are at the mercy of the third party for data that you put there and believe are owed.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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post #51
post #41

We actually don't "need" anything more social.

Thank you!

Between my Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, iMessage, SMS, and phone, and whatever else I'm forgetting... I'm all socialed out. Do I, or for that matter anyone else, really need another way to communicate with social circles?

Do I personally want another one? Well not me, but other people might.

Does anyone need another one? I highly highly doubt it.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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post #13

The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.

>You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows.

No, but he made an argument. You have to judge it. Not everything in life is settled with "evidence".

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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post #13

The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

Does this mean I'm going to have to rescue my data every time a software/network is "retired"?

Of course. Or rather, that you'll learn that the more important data, you publish on your own, and everything else is transient.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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This article surprisingly misses the fact that I want to communicate with my grandparents. Sure, I don't want them in the same circle as my friends, but communication there is important too.

There are many social networks who aren't tailored to the older generation, so there's a bit of a problem there: My mom has no interest in Twitter. That's why I like attempts like togethera.com, I think there are plenty of alternatives for "the social network we think we want", but not enough for the ones we actually would find useful. "Faster horse", etc.

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