NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
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#2As an American, I feel like my country is actually putting me in long-term danger. The government is making America and Americans enemies of the entire world.
If and when I ultimately have to feel the country, will I even be accepted into anywhere else?
What if they are suspicious that I work for the NSA? Or what if they just decide to treat Americans the way the US treats would-be immigrants to the US now--no, you can't come in?
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#3We don't need the Snowden disclosures to know this; it has for 15 years been the worst kept secret in computer security. People from the various groups in NSA that do this work talk about having done it on Twitter. Some of the smartest people in vulnerability research came from stints in NSA.
Be outraged that we're spying on your country if that makes you feel better, I guess. I'd rather nobody spied on each other either. But it is intellectually dishonest to pretend that people are just now discovering that NSA was breaking into computers around the world. That is literally the charter of the NSA. It's why they exist at all. There isn't even a pretense of a different purpose for the organization.
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#4What would happen if NSA mistakenly targets a nuclear reactor, and a bug in the malicious software caused a meltdown.
Is that a declaration of war, similar to a US launching a nuke? Would US be liable, and under what jurisdiction? Could the US President be put under Interpool arrest warrant, charged as an terrorist?
Sabotage, especially when the target can not be fully verified, is a dangerous game. IP addresses are easily mistakenly taken as identity, even if proxying is the number one method to evade detection.
Re: NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
#5We don't need the Snowden disclosures to know this; it has for 15 years been the worst kept secret in computer security. People from the various groups in NSA that do this work talk about having done it on Twitter. Some of the smartest people in vulnerability research came from stints in NSA. Be outraged that we're spying on your country if that makes you feel better, I guess. I'd rather nobody spied on each other ei…
I guess that makes it ok then.
Re: NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
#6We don't need the Snowden disclosures to know this; it has for 15 years been the worst kept secret in computer security. People from the various groups in NSA that do this work talk about having done it on Twitter. Some of the smartest people in vulnerability research came from stints in NSA. Be outraged that we're spying on your country if that makes you feel better, I guess. I'd rather nobody spied on each other ei…
I guess that makes it ok then.
Sovereign countries interact in the state of nature. Your country has a problem with the NSA? Pick up a SAT solver and build yourself some ROP shellcode and hit us back. Oh wait: your country's already doing that.
Do I like it? No. We don't work with the USG, and that's one of many reasons why.
Re: NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
#7We don't need the Snowden disclosures to know this; it has for 15 years been the worst kept secret in computer security. People from the various groups in NSA that do this work talk about having done it on Twitter. Some of the smartest people in vulnerability research came from stints in NSA. Be outraged that we're spying on your country if that makes you feel better, I guess. I'd rather nobody spied on each other ei…
We didn't do it.
We didn't do it.
We didn't do it.
We didn't do it.
Its old news.
Re: NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
#8What would happen if NSA mistakenly targets a nuclear reactor, and a bug in the malicious software caused a meltdown. Is that a declaration of war, similar to a US launching a nuke? Would US be liable, and under what jurisdiction? Could the US President be put under Interpool arrest warrant, charged as an terrorist? Sabotage, especially when the target can not be fully verified, is a dangerous game. IP addresses are…
"What would happen if NSA mistakenly targets a nuclear reactor, and a bug in the malicious software caused a meltdown."
What would happen if the NSA introduced a weakness in a cryptosystem that was used to secure major utilities in the USA? The NSA does not care about such external effects.
Re: NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
#9We don't need the Snowden disclosures to know this; it has for 15 years been the worst kept secret in computer security. People from the various groups in NSA that do this work talk about having done it on Twitter. Some of the smartest people in vulnerability research came from stints in NSA. Be outraged that we're spying on your country if that makes you feel better, I guess. I'd rather nobody spied on each other ei…
We didn't do it. We didn't do it. We didn't do it. We didn't do it. Its old news.
That it is old news is a simple, verifiable fact. I don't care what NSA said in public.
Re: NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious software
#10What would happen if NSA mistakenly targets a nuclear reactor, and a bug in the malicious software caused a meltdown. Is that a declaration of war, similar to a US launching a nuke? Would US be liable, and under what jurisdiction? Could the US President be put under Interpool arrest warrant, charged as an terrorist? Sabotage, especially when the target can not be fully verified, is a dangerous game. IP addresses are…
Yes, that seems pretty simple: if NSA hacking caused a nuclear disaster, that would be an act of war. And?