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Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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I believe FedWire has a $50M pert transaction max, thus $1T would cost around $5K.

As far as I can tell, the $50 million limit only applies to the Fedwire Securities Service for transferring Treasury and certain other securities, and there is no such limit for the Fedwire Funds Service that transfers money.

I stand corrected.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Whoever owns this wallet used it to gamble on https://letsdice.com/ https://blockchain.info/tx/a80f91549f863ccb58603e45a37980e30...

So much for anonymity of Bitcoin.

It's like the AOL search-data leak. It's anonymous until you do a bit of research; then you can narrow it down to general area, maybe gender and perhaps eventually who exactly it is. Now, since one person can have multiple wallets and addresses... I'd recommend this person to never use this address again! ...because people(and authorities) will be watching and gathering clues on it from now on. I'm sure the folks at 4chan/neogaf/reddit would love to put on their sherlock-homes hat and find this person.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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While that is true, Bitcoin is far from a bulletproof preserve of wealth. Gold has other uses if it isn't used as a currency anymore. Bitcoin on the other hand can be made completely useless if some critical flaw is found, or the wealth is too concentrated in a few users and the majority decides to switch to a newer crypto-currency.

Gold's other uses wouldn't make gold worth much on their own. "Legitimate" uses of a commodity that trades more for its properties as money should be thought more of a really crappy put option, that is it sets a low price floor. For example, it's been estimated that gold's industrial uses would only allow it to be traded in the low double digits per ounce if people didn't desire it for other reasons. It's just in the…

Gold isn't just shiny, it is the most unreactive metal.

It has a lot of other potential uses that other industries avoid because it is so expensive. If the price ever falls it will be kept up by those uses.

http://geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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No, that's ACH. SWIFT (or even FedWire) transfers happen within a few minutes.

Fedwire and other real time gross settlement services (RTGS) are almost instantaneous. SWIFT transfers usually are not: SWIFT is a way to communicate messages about transfers between banks, but they would still need a way to do the actual settlement. This could be very fast in the case of two large banks in different countries: if you are a customer in bank A, which has a correspondent account with B, and the recipie…

The Fedwire transaction better be instantaneous -- interest on intraday overdrafts accrues by the minute.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/psr_policy.htm#...

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Apparently people think its the Winklevoss' since they claimed to have bought ~1% of all BTC and the amount moved nicely coincides with about 1%

It couldn't be them - this was an odd number of bitcoins.

I know humor is forbidden, but I laughed out loud at this anyway. I felt compelled to comment because this is a difficult joke to setup in every day conversation.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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>between two entities usually consists of a heavily guarded, insured, physical shipment of cash or gold. Err, life isn't a james bond movie. For money transfer like this we use bank wires. We dont buy gold and ship it on gunships anymore.

Not true: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-31/venezuela-receives-... http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2013/01/16/germany...

Central banks moving gold reserves is very different from everyday financial transactions because reserves have a special status tied to their physicality. They act as a form of physically controlled collateral.

Corporations and individuals generally do not move wealth via physical assets.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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I'm a little offended by the "like in every third world country" statement. Chile is not like that at all, and we are a third world country. In fact, here we are ranked right under (20th) the US (19th) in terms of transparency: http://www.transparency.org/country#CHL http://www.transparency.org/country#USA_DataResearch Argentina is ranked 102: http://www.transparency.org/country#ARG_DataResearch In all of Latin Ameri…

"Third-world" is a loaded term and doesn't really have a useful definition anymore.

You are right, just like developed country. Your comment reminded me of this very interesting video that compares the US, Cuba and Chile: http://www.gapminder.org/videos/gapmindervideos/gapcast-6-ch...

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I may be ignorant here, but isn't the BTC system entirely based on 3rd party oversight?

It's not instantaneous, therefore you have to have faith in the system (as opposed to faith in your bank). Sender sends $150 million and receiver needs to wait 30 minutes for enough verifiers to trust the transfer went through. In the meantime, the $150 million is in limbo.

30-minute mexican standoff

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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I'm a little offended by the "like in every third world country" statement. Chile is not like that at all, and we are a third world country. In fact, here we are ranked right under (20th) the US (19th) in terms of transparency: http://www.transparency.org/country#CHL http://www.transparency.org/country#USA_DataResearch Argentina is ranked 102: http://www.transparency.org/country#ARG_DataResearch In all of Latin Ameri…

Chile will probably stop being third-world soon enough, though (I heard something about startup accelerators popping up there?) There should be a term for "third-world country that's probably going to stay third-world for the forseeable future, excepting a revolutionary change of government." Maybe... dystopia ? Argentina is a dystopia.

Checkout http://startupchile.org they've made a lot of noise. There are quite a few cool (and successful) companies that have come out of there. My two favorites: Padlet (padlet.com) and Admetricks (admetricks.com). Padlet was also in YC and Imagine K-12 (after StartupChile)
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