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Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transaction priority are based solely on fee amount..no?

priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age) / size_in_bytes A recently received single bitcoin can have a transaction fee, while one that has aged may not.

Damn, how do you do quotes?

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

#42

Well, this is just another reason why bitcoin will not work - you can track money changing hands.. Certain three letter agencies would have not trouble tracking most of the transfers, all over the world.

Or why it would be ideal to be used by the government - so we could track how they move money around, prevent corruption and generally keep an eye on the untrustworthy ones.

Or why it was created by the government. We still have no idea who Satoshi is, and bitcoin is obviously robust enough that it had to have been peer reviewed.

It's the perfect honeypot.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Should this be regarded as capital gains from currency speculation, when it comes to taxation, or how does something like this look to a tax attorney or accountant?

The government would have to consider Bitcoins as a currency for it to be taxed like a currency. Right now it has no status identified for legal purposes so no way to tax it. I am sure that several governments are looking in to it as we speak. Death and taxes

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Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Should this be regarded as capital gains from currency speculation, when it comes to taxation, or how does something like this look to a tax attorney or accountant?

This might help: http://www.bitcointax.info/

Wow. That's an exhaustive discussion. +1

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Should this be regarded as capital gains from currency speculation, when it comes to taxation, or how does something like this look to a tax attorney or accountant?

The government would have to consider Bitcoins as a currency for it to be taxed like a currency. Right now it has no status identified for legal purposes so no way to tax it. I am sure that several governments are looking in to it as we speak. Death and taxes

I don't think that's how it works.

Tax over selling a property are not dependent on the property (ok, it depends sometimes, like real estate) but in principle they exist regardless of the nature of the property.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Should this be regarded as capital gains from currency speculation, when it comes to taxation, or how does something like this look to a tax attorney or accountant?

The government would have to consider Bitcoins as a currency for it to be taxed like a currency. Right now it has no status identified for legal purposes so no way to tax it. I am sure that several governments are looking in to it as we speak. Death and taxes

The government can tax anything it wants. For example, barter exchanges are taxable by the government, even if no actual money changed hands. They would just put a dollar figure on the barter, and then tax it accordingly. Bitcoin doesn't have to be a currency in order for the government to tax any gains made on its sale or transfer.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

#48

Well, this is just another reason why bitcoin will not work - you can track money changing hands.. Certain three letter agencies would have not trouble tracking most of the transfers, all over the world.

Or why it would be ideal to be used by the government - so we could track how they move money around, prevent corruption and generally keep an eye on the untrustworthy ones.

Let's say that you pay for Virgin Galactic ticket - that will be a fairly large transaction pointing to your wallet. Someone will be able connect the dots and find out that you also bought Viagra, and a penis enlargement pump. Do you really want that connected to you? Another case - you buy something from one of the stores that accept bitcoins. That store may have the address of your bitcoin wallet. They will be able to use some clever algorithms to see how much money do you have available there, what did you use your bitcoins for, and more stuff like that..

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

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Should this be regarded as capital gains from currency speculation, when it comes to taxation, or how does something like this look to a tax attorney or accountant?

It should be noted that all we can know about an arbitrary transfer like this is BTC was moved. We do not know if ownership of said BTC changed; people can own many bitcoin addresses.

Re: Someone just made a $147,239,214 Bitcoin transfer

#50

Well, this is just another reason why bitcoin will not work - you can track money changing hands.. Certain three letter agencies would have not trouble tracking most of the transfers, all over the world.

You clearly don't have a clue about how bitcoin works. If two parties want to make their transactions totally untraceable it is possible. As far as I can tell, this transfer could be made by the same wallet, from generated address to the other in order to initiate speculations and show that BTC can actually be used for big un-taxed, non-stoppable money transfer, or it was just a way to show to the IRS what money is missing by not endorsing bitcoin asap.
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