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Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Does anyone know some good alternatives to chess, as a game that mixes deep thought and aesthetic variety? I tried Go, but found it somewhat boring compared to chess, because of its uniformity (which, on the other hand, has the advantage of beautiful simplicity and symmetry.) On another note: it is unfortunate, in my opinion, that chess has a special standing among board games. I would love to see some more variety i…

Have you tried Chess960[0]

0. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess960

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Does anyone know some good alternatives to chess, as a game that mixes deep thought and aesthetic variety? I tried Go, but found it somewhat boring compared to chess, because of its uniformity (which, on the other hand, has the advantage of beautiful simplicity and symmetry.) On another note: it is unfortunate, in my opinion, that chess has a special standing among board games. I would love to see some more variety i…

Off the top of my head, if you're looking for deep two-player strategy with zero chance element, besides Go there's Othello (Reversi), Hive, Checkers, and Khet. If you're willing to put up with some chance, Backgammon and Battle Line can be very satisfying. For more than two players, take a look at Puerto Rico (finite but negligible chance) and Diplomacy.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Chess is amazing it blows my mind why simple tools and games like this are not incorporated in some 'fun' way into the education system. By 'fun' I mean that if children were told to play chess they would not. A system would be need to be designed so that they look forward to chess class as they do for PE and art.

My daughter's grade school has chess lessons once a week (we are in Canada). They start as young as junior kindergarten. To reinforce the lessons and gauge her learning, I try to play at least one game with her a month.

I'm impressed at how much she's learned in the program. She's still not capable of beating me, but I'm able to teach her things she's not learned yet in the program such as castling and en passant. Then I'm happy to see her come back after that week's lesson to tell me she used what I taught her and won her game.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Does anyone know some good alternatives to chess, as a game that mixes deep thought and aesthetic variety? I tried Go, but found it somewhat boring compared to chess, because of its uniformity (which, on the other hand, has the advantage of beautiful simplicity and symmetry.) On another note: it is unfortunate, in my opinion, that chess has a special standing among board games. I would love to see some more variety i…

Magic: the Gathering? It's a game of infinite possibilities and strategies and has a big meta game around it, too. Plus collectibles. Plus cool artwork. Plus good apps.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Thanks for the comment, the concept of nettlesomeness intrigues me. "...Carlsen is demonstrating one of his most feared qualities, namely his “nettlesomeness,” to use a term coined for this purpose by Ken Regan. Using computer analysis, you can measure which players do the most to cause their opponents to make mistakes." I was surprised to see that this isn't just some subjective measure but can me measured using com…

I think this is actually based on subjective measures. An annotated game[0] will have ?!, ?, and ?? added by human commentators to indicate varying levels of mistakes. A computer analysis can make use of these subjective move evaluations within an annotated game to easily measure which players cause their opponents to make mistakes at a significantly greater frequency than their normal rate of mistakes. [0] http://en…

Right - a human would have to curate which moves were mistakes. Though I think that eventually computers could take over in this category as well.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Does anyone know some good alternatives to chess, as a game that mixes deep thought and aesthetic variety? I tried Go, but found it somewhat boring compared to chess, because of its uniformity (which, on the other hand, has the advantage of beautiful simplicity and symmetry.) On another note: it is unfortunate, in my opinion, that chess has a special standing among board games. I would love to see some more variety i…

Have you heard about Arimaa? http://arimaa.com/arimaa/

Arimaa is a good choice - it can be played on a chess board, has quite a bit of variety, and is deep as well.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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what rule is that? are you implying even if only white king, black king, and black knight would be left on board, it would be a draw/win for white by default? Instead of trying to isolate white king into a corner for checkmate? Never heard of a rule like that. Are you sure?

Combinations with insufficient material to checkmate are: king versus king; king and bishop versus king; king and knight versus king; king and bishop versus king and bishop with the bishops on the same colour. - wikipedia

Then you have the situations where a check mate is possible but cannot be forced. King and two knights against king cannot force a check mate, but if the player with the lone king knows what they're doing and wants to get check mated, they can help the other player to win. If I'm not mistaken, that counts as a draw even if the clock flags on the player with less material.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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Chess is amazing it blows my mind why simple tools and games like this are not incorporated in some 'fun' way into the education system. By 'fun' I mean that if children were told to play chess they would not. A system would be need to be designed so that they look forward to chess class as they do for PE and art.

Chess is great, but I prefer "Go." (An oddly named game.) Had I learned it when I was young, I feel I would have benefited greatly.

Re: Magnus Carlsen is World Chess Champion

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> Anand gave up a knight advantage, purposedly for a clear cut draw. When you assume that a world-class GM played "purposedly" for a draw that would lose him the championship title, you're probably wrong. > He took queen with queen, clearly He was in check. Taking W's queen was the only way to avoid losing his own for nothing.

are you sure about that? the king could have moved back up, but in front.. moved from right side to left side between those two lines, without moving in front of the queen line.

If Anand played the king to the eighth rank instead of to h6, Carlsen would have kept checking on the seventh and eighth ranks, with a draw by perpetual check.
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