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Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by chrismorgan » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:23 PM UTC

I'm puzzled about the switch from camelCase to snake_case for JS as shown in http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/upgrading.html#javascript-va.... The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? (I say this as someone who in normal life using Python and Rust uses and prefers snake_case but who uses camelCase when writing JavaScript.)

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:31 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #40

Wow, that was fast ! I love Foundation, but I had to switch to Boostrap because I found it... ugly. And Bootstrap is great to quickly create "pretty" prototypes. But I've always found Foundation having better... foundations. I've used both on numerous projects and here's my take : * The grid system now looks like bootstrap, and I don't like that. You have to choose the type of column you want to use (and I don't want…

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Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by smileyj68 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:33 PM UTC

hanifvirani wrote: post #38

smileyj68 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, they should, have a light grey background. Maybe too light?

I could see it after fiddling with my contrast setting. I am not sure how bad it is for other people.

We'll see if we can amp it up a bit.

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by elm232 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:40 PM UTC

adamb_ wrote: post #43

loceng wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as Bootstrap, I imagine. Not sure if moreso or lessso though. Perhaps different use cases? It looks like developers prefer Bootstrap, not entirely sure why - perhaps something as simple as the documentation is structured better for them - or that was the initial crowd who was exposed to it.

Bootstrap is attached to a big-name company.

They're not though. The author worked for Twitter when he released the first version of Bootstrap, but Twitter never actually used it in production. Twitter doesn't promote it anymore either; BS3 got moved to twbs/bootstrap on GitHub, and the new marketing site doesn't call it Twitter Bootstrap anymore.

ZURB doesn't have a huge consumer product, but they're a pretty big name in design, and they have half a dozen people who regularly work on Foundation/Foundation support.

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by Spiritus » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:41 PM UTC

chrismorgan wrote: post #81

I'm puzzled about the switch from camelCase to snake_case for JS as shown in http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/upgrading.html#javascript-va... . The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? (I say this as someone who in normal life using Python and Rust uses and prefers snake_case but who uses camelCase when writing JavaScript.)

I wouldn't mind if more projects did this to be honest.

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by Segmentation » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:46 PM UTC

chrismorgan wrote: post #81

I'm puzzled about the switch from camelCase to snake_case for JS as shown in http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/upgrading.html#javascript-va... . The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? (I say this as someone who in normal life using Python and Rust uses and prefers snake_case but who uses camelCase when writing JavaScript.)

> The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it?

Citation?

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by Segmentation » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:49 PM UTC

My only problem with Zurb is that ridiculous mascot that represents it. What is that sky-blue creature? Hipster yeti?

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:49 PM UTC

chrismorgan wrote: post #81

I'm puzzled about the switch from camelCase to snake_case for JS as shown in http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/upgrading.html#javascript-va... . The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? (I say this as someone who in normal life using Python and Rust uses and prefers snake_case but who uses camelCase when writing JavaScript.)

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Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by lowboy » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:50 PM UTC

Spiritus wrote: post #85

chrismorgan wrote: post #81

I'm puzzled about the switch from camelCase to snake_case for JS as shown in http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/upgrading.html#javascript-va... . The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? (I say this as someone who in normal life using Python and Rust uses and prefers snake_case but who uses camelCase when writing JavaScript.)

I wouldn't mind if more projects did this to be honest.

I would, just because it causes fragmentation. PEP-8[0] is a big win for Python. Javascript relies on adhoc standards and best practice docs from respected entities.

I'm open to change and debate, but it should be approached carefully.

[0]: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by lowboy » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 9:52 PM UTC

Segmentation wrote: post #86

chrismorgan wrote: post #81

I'm puzzled about the switch from camelCase to snake_case for JS as shown in http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/upgrading.html#javascript-va... . The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? (I say this as someone who in normal life using Python and Rust uses and prefers snake_case but who uses camelCase when writing JavaScript.)

> The clear convention in JavaScript is camelCase, why switch away from it? Citation?

Javascript was created in camelCase, and most major open source projects I've used have been camelCase. I can't find any data on it, but it fits with my experience for what that's worth.