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Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by patmcguire »

IBM wrote: post #7
josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

You should probably read more than the title and abstract of a patent.

How did no one create the account IBM until 30 days ago?

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by iQuercus »

josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

I think if you "can't believe" it might be beneficial to read the case and the patents in depth. It's a little more nuanced than is presented in most articles I've seen.

It might help move you to "I disagree, but I can see how..."

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by bitcrusher »

josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

I seriously can't believe that there is an entire sub-culture of people that are still trollololing about 'rounded corners' without understanding the context.

Design Patents are Different than Technology Patents.

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by TruthSHIFT »

josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

What's a holo-principle?

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by rayiner »

stevenwei wrote: post #9
josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

Yeah, it's not like they went screen by screen through the iPhone and said 'hey, we need to do what they're doing...' http://www.scribd.com/doc/102317767/Samsung-Relative-Evaluat...

This is the stuff that gets missed in these debates. It's not like Apple's attorneys got up in front of the jury, drew a rectangle with rounded corners, wrote PATENTED across it, then sat down.

Rather, stuff like what you linked to is what causes juries to award $1 billion. E-mails along the lines of "let's make this look more like the iPhone." Presentations along the lines of "why isn't this more like the iPhone?" Surveys along the lines of "75% of people thought this looked like an iPhone." Market data on customer confusion, etc.

This particular presentation is pure gold. Slide after slide that basically convinces the jury that Samsung didn't "play fair" and copied someone else's work instead of doing their own.

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by patrickaljord »

josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

At this point, for most people watching this from outside of the US, it looks like protectionism racket disguised as a legal verdict. Samsung is eating Apple's lunch and the US is trying to stop that. The US gov keeps pushing for more free market worldwide (which is great), except that when one of its industries or great companies is in danger because of international competition, protectionism is the way. How can they be taken seriously?

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by a_c_s »

josteink wrote: post #4

I seriously can't believe how much money Apple has been able to troll out of those rounded corners and that end-of-list overscroll effect. And now, to top it off, iOS 7 is built on the holo-principles of Android. It's almost like Apple is doing it merely to taunt its foreign competitors, saying very, very clearly: "Sorry guys. I'm untouchable". Utterly disgusting. At least their attempts to outright ban products have…

It isn't 'trolling' if you are actually using the patents in your products. You don't have to agree with the lawsuit, but please quit diluting the term.

Re: Jury: Samsung Owes Apple Another $290 Million

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Post by sreque »

rayiner wrote: post #16
stevenwei wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's not like they went screen by screen through the iPhone and said 'hey, we need to do what they're doing...' http://www.scribd.com/doc/102317767/Samsung-Relative-Evaluat...

This is the stuff that gets missed in these debates. It's not like Apple's attorneys got up in front of the jury, drew a rectangle with rounded corners, wrote PATENTED across it, then sat down. Rather, stuff like what you linked to is what causes juries to award $1 billion. E-mails along the lines of "let's make this look more like the iPhone." Presentations along the lines of "why isn't this more like the iPhone?" S…

You know what else gets tossed out of these debates by Apple patent defenders? The fact that Samsung is continuing to have success in invaliding the patents they are being sued for:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/20/samsung-looks-to-h...

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