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US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by marcosdumay »

Mithaldu wrote: post #33

That guy managed to instantly go from slightly above zero respect to negative, when i copy-pasted stuff and noticed that his site saw fit to add spam onto that in the buffer.

Well, it's not from a script in his page, because it does not work with me. It must be from a 3rd party script, but there are so many of them that I'm simply not curious enough to discover wich.

Anyway, that blog is hosted on a 3rd party service, owned by an ad company. It's not that easy to blame him for what the service does. (Does Mish even know that blogger inserts ads there?)

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

bausson wrote: post #60
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure! All skilled folks that leave France, don't want to go back. That's the point.

ALL of my (highly-skilled) french friends still in France do not plan to leave in the foreseeable future. All my (highly-skilled) foreigner friends do not plan to leave either. So with your argumentation, France is probably the best country in the world.

Except the ones in the USA have knowledge of both worlds.

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by marcosdumay »

iSnow wrote: post #62
salient wrote: post #53

Can I just say how much I hate that Google automatically turns blogspot.com into the TLD of your own country? Who the hell wants that?

Google does (or did?, I only use the browser search field) that to the search page URL as well.

And that's maddening. If I want to search some english terms, the easiest way to get meaningfull results it by tunneling my query through some computer at the US.

Google just assumes that everybody can only speach one language, and is only intersted in one country, even when explicitly told otherwise.

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by cinquemb »

tokenizer wrote: post #198
cinquemb wrote: post #117

This might be pretty meta, but from looking at some of these comments makes me wonder how in the age of the internet, which give us a de facto global commons onto exchange ideas/information/currency and securely for those who take the steps to do so, some people still have an an affinity for whichever line drawn around them the sand in which one had no say in personally. Can we form something better through the afore…

If I understand you correctly, I think it has to do with the fact that their narratives don't align with the information. And that's only if the sources are credible (to them), the bias isn't obvious/against the readers bias, and the facts are presented clearly to them (presentation). So the major barrier to what you & I enjoy as the internet for people to adopt in my opinion, are the communication barriers we all fa…

I think I would have to agree with your opinion about banding together in common ideology, but I'm not sure about the stronger part (what that means to me).

What I mean by that is that I haven't (nor do I think I will ever fully) decide(d) if that becoming stronger is to exert that influence over other ways of thinking/being or to become stronger so that me as the individual can live and move about the earth as freely as I choose understanding the danger that I may present upon myself and that upon other human beings trying to do the same or something else. So I guess whether the division in ourselves can be removed or not, It will ultimately come down to the individual or small group of people to make it so either way. And that's where I am now: working on something with a friend (maybe people more in the future) that will help explore what that means to me.

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by Tloewald »

astrobe_ wrote: post #154
Tloewald wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah the United States never does anything outside its jurisdiction that anyone else finds annoying. That said, the level of institutionalized corruption in France is pretty outrageous. If I recall correctly, the president of France receives a truck load of cash every year which can be used with zero accountability (and that's legal ). Of course the French (and pretty much any democratic country) can look at our elec…

You are probably referring to this: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonds_sp%C3%A9ciaux quick translation: before 2001 the President and its ministers used to receive "secret funding" that they could use for whatever they wanted. The money came from Banque de France (public money, not money from a private bank). This has been mostly suppressed in 2001 (the amounts are now public information), except for secret services…

I'm glad it's been reformed (I think it came to light during the ELF scandal). But yes, my overall point is it's just a matter of pot calling kettle black.

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by DanBC »

marcosdumay wrote: post #203
iSnow wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google does (or did?, I only use the browser search field) that to the search page URL as well.

And that's maddening. If I want to search some english terms, the easiest way to get meaningfull results it by tunneling my query through some computer at the US. Google just assumes that everybody can only speach one language, and is only intersted in one country, even when explicitly told otherwise.

...and I want it to work the other way. I want to be able to enter English terms, and have pages from other languages returned.

I have no idea how that would work, but it's frustrating finding my www experience stuck in a UK/US bubble.

As for Google, does /ncr (no country redirect) still work?

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by cobrausn »

Tloewald wrote: post #180
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that Mike Shedlock is not personally America and has no control of the actions of the American government. Also, there's only one nation in the world called "America," so it's plenty precise. The continents are "North America" and "South America," or jointly "the Americas." Posturing aside, I don't believe that a reasonable person is likely to confuse them.

I was responding to someone who was cheerfully making anti-French statements because a US citizen was mistreated by some piece of the French government. This is no different (except in degree) from an Pakistani citizen (say) being killed by the US government, also outside its legal jurisdiction.

You were responding to someone who was being derogatory towards Société Générale. How is this 'Anti-French'? Isn't your objection here pretty ironic considering the topic at hand?

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by cobrausn »

Tloewald wrote: post #193
jlgreco wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both are bad (although obviously there is a discrepancy in seriousness here) . We should not fail to criticize one because the other also happens.

Yes but to make sweeping complaints about the French as an American is absurd. (And note that I myself pointed out that France has a serious problem with institutionalized corruption, not that the US has anything to crow about.)

Nobody you were replying to made any sweeping complaints about the French. And pointing it out as a citizen of the U.S. doesn't count as crowing unless you get defensive and interpret it that way.

Re: US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

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Post by Mithaldu »

marcosdumay wrote: post #201
Mithaldu wrote: post #33

That guy managed to instantly go from slightly above zero respect to negative, when i copy-pasted stuff and noticed that his site saw fit to add spam onto that in the buffer.

Well, it's not from a script in his page, because it does not work with me. It must be from a 3rd party script, but there are so many of them that I'm simply not curious enough to discover wich. Anyway, that blog is hosted on a 3rd party service, owned by an ad company. It's not that easy to blame him for what the service does. (Does Mish even know that blogger inserts ads there?)

It is from a script in his page:

http://i.po.st/share/script/post-widget.js

I've also never seen that on another blogspot blog, so while they might've added more stuff, i don't think it's that.

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