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Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by gergles »

mortenjorck wrote: post #61
bowlofpetunias wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an Apple fanboy, but the Apple TV DRM-crippled walled garden isn't anywhere near good enough for me. I simply want any device to send a signal to my TV. It's trivial with cables, modern wireless technology can cheaply carry high quality signals, and the only thing standing in the way is the copyright mafia.

What? Unless the entirety of your information about the AppleTV comes from Cory Doctorow posts, you know that the only places DRM comes into the picture are when streaming pre-existing content from premium sources (iTunes Store, Netflix, Hulu). There's absolutely nothing stopping you from loading a DRM-free h.264 file on another one of your Apple devices and streaming that over AirPlay. And HTML5 video in Mobile Safa…

> "on your Apple devices"

That's the problem. Apple has DRMd the protocol so you have to be using an Apple device to send things to it.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by NDizzle »

wil421 wrote: post #47

I could buy a Chromecast for half the price and use a free service to mirror my desktop for meetings. Or I could buy another Apple TV for a little more and have a lot more functionality and video outlets (HBO GO, Netflix etc.). Although this option only works if you use Macs. Or as another poster said just use the built in wifi on my TVs in my house.

Chromecast is kind of annoying because you have to worry about what software it works with. Can I just share my 1080p screen at 60hz on a Chromecast? That's the main benefit I see with this device.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by deelowe »

mootothemax wrote: post #23

Sadly a better solution already exists: my 2012 Panasonic TV connects wirelessly to my network, and my laptop can stream videos to it without having to install anything , all via DLNA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Alliance Here's Panasonic's page outlining such features in their TVs: http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/VIERA+TV/VIER... It's a lovely idea for retrofitting to older TVs…

DLNA doesn't work for a lot of use cases. What I want is chromecast, but without the cloud BS. TVs at this point should really just be wireless monitors. From there, I could walk into the room with my wifi device and display whatever I want on my TV. This would be especially great for tablets where both the tablet and the TV are "lean back" experiences.

I want bluetooth for displays (and high def audio and devices, etc...). I just want to walk into a room and have my phone, computer, tablet, etc. find my printer, display, mouse, and all other useful devices.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by xymostech »

gergles wrote: post #111
mortenjorck wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Unless the entirety of your information about the AppleTV comes from Cory Doctorow posts, you know that the only places DRM comes into the picture are when streaming pre-existing content from premium sources (iTunes Store, Netflix, Hulu). There's absolutely nothing stopping you from loading a DRM-free h.264 file on another one of your Apple devices and streaming that over AirPlay. And HTML5 video in Mobile Safa…

> "on your Apple devices" That's the problem. Apple has DRMd the protocol so you have to be using an Apple device to send things to it.

Not (entirely) true at all! Someone reverse-engineered most of the Airplay protocol, so you could (if you wrote software to do it) do the same stuff on Windows/Linux/Etc: http://nto.github.io/AirPlay.html

For video streaming, you basically just have to send it a URL to a video file, and it'll stream and play it for you just fine.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by thenomad »

dublinben wrote: post #108
warcode wrote: post #65

It is not "Wireless HDMI" until I plug something in the HDMI port of my PC and the HDMI port of my TV and it "just works". Playing games on the output of a 1080p @ 60fps with 3-5k bitrate encoder causes massive delay.

Here you go. This is a real 'wireless HDMI' solution from an established AV company. http://www.dvdo.com/air3/index.aspx

So does this actually work without significant lag? Would be very good to know in light of the Kickstarter here!

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by isaacwaller »

Tehnix wrote: post #64

For all the "use chromecast/Apple TV/Miracast", this might be helpfull as to why it isn't the same http://images.indiegogo.com/file_attachments/213408/files/20... Also, the guys chanting DLNA, does that work on other things than windows? I've never heard of it, so, have little knowledge of it. Also, I will take a stab in the dark and guess the muliple monitors part and sharing your screen on others computers isn't qu…

That chart has a small error, Miracast certainly does support extended desktop - I use it frequently on Windows 8.1.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by mnw21cam »

tbe wrote: post #83
mnw21cam wrote: post #72

Why are there so many reinventions of VNC?

This. Shouldn't there be an app for my SmartTV to let it connect to a VNC/X11/RDP server?

You mean connect to a VNC/RDP server, and be an X11 server? (Although where you'd get the mouse and keyboard input from, I'm not sure.)

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by periferral »

Wow. lot of negativity here. I think this is a great product and I would gladly pick it up when it becomes available. Indiegogo is a no go for me.

Here are my thoughts 1. DLNA != this and many have already outlined why so no point repeating.

2. Great features and the need for software is a minor hiccup considering how feature rich the s/w makes the solution. I would consider making the software portable for windows.

3. Not all platforms have hdmi. What about display-port compatibility (adaptor?)

4. I'm less concerned about b/w like some have pointed out here. The use case is not always high quality video as long as the quality is above SD and wifi doesn't cut out.

5. I'm guessing that with a s/w option, it should be possible to do this wired on the laptop end. But, the TV end is always wireless. I would love to see a wired option to eliminate wireless as an option. Not sure if there is a wired solution that exists today to do this.

Anyway, congrats to the team. Seems like a great product.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by tbob22 »

Interesting, but it seems like it is dropping frames all over the place. I suppose it would be good enough for presentations but not for movie or game use.

I suppose with later iterations it could improve, but I would rather just plug the HDMI directly into the laptop and use a wireless keyboard/mouse if needed.

On another note, I find it hard to believe that Apple still hasn't fixed the color space issues on OS X (it only occurs if you use a different profile other than SRGB). It is clearly visible throughout the video showing the purple menu bar highlight when it should be blue.

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