Mozilla’s reliance on Google is increasing: 90% of 2012 revenue

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Post by hackhackhack » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 3:33 PM UTC

Mozilla’s reliance on Google is increasing: 90% of 2012 revenue
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Post by ebbv » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:03 PM UTC

If I were at Mozilla my #1 priority would be fixing this situation. Google has been less and less "not evil" lately, and this is not a position that I'd feel comfortable in long term.

Alternative revenue models are needed. Unfortunately, reducing costs is probably also necessary.

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Post by k__ » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:04 PM UTC

How come that no other company wants to pay Mozilla?

There are many out there who use their products on a daily basis.

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Post by Zigurd » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:05 PM UTC

To declare a crisis before Mozilla properly launches their mobile OS is premature.

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Post by saosebastiao » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:05 PM UTC

I'm so sick of this argument about Mozilla. It is like saying a Principal Engineer at Microsoft relies on Microsof because it provides 90% of his income. Last time Mozilla's contract was up for negotiation, they caused bidding war that increased their value over the previous contract...it wasn't Google's generosity. You are a fool if you think Mozilla is beholden to Google.

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Post by Touche » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:06 PM UTC

k__ wrote: post #3

How come that no other company wants to pay Mozilla? There are many out there who use their products on a daily basis.

I bet they get solicited all the time but there aren't many ways to make money on a web browser without ruining the user experience.

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Post by themodelplumber » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:07 PM UTC

One of the key "all is well" arguments here seems to be that Google could lose a significant chunk of search/ad market share by losing Firefox to Bing.

Are there any "danger, danger" arguments that directly address the amount Google spends on Firefox in relation to the market share it gains in return? This TNW article seems keen to point out that Firefox is wearing a shiny pair of handcuffs, but conveniently leaves out the other half of the equation.

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Post by abhididdigi » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:07 PM UTC

I am surprised by this. Mozilla is literally pumping out good open source software and no other company except Google is backing them?

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Post by Touche » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:07 PM UTC

ebbv wrote: post #2

If I were at Mozilla my #1 priority would be fixing this situation. Google has been less and less "not evil" lately, and this is not a position that I'd feel comfortable in long term. Alternative revenue models are needed. Unfortunately, reducing costs is probably also necessary.

As long as Firefox has good marketshare Google will want to be its default search engine.

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Post by rayiner » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 4:07 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #6

k__ wrote: post #3

How come that no other company wants to pay Mozilla? There are many out there who use their products on a daily basis.

I bet they get solicited all the time but there aren't many ways to make money on a web browser without ruining the user experience.

You could just sell a copy, but hey I guess I'm old fashioned thinking selling a product in exchange for money is better than selling eyeballs to advertisers.