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Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by jrs99 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:36 PM UTC

kadabra9 wrote: post #6

What's really scary about Carlsen is I don't think he's close to reaching his full potential yet. He's rapidly approaching the level of dominance in elite chess not seen since Fischer or Kasparov, and he's only 22. I can't think of anyone in the next Candidate's Tournament that would be a serious threat to take Carlsen's title, aside from maybe Kramnik. I'm also really interested to see the impact Carlsen winning the…

Carlsen is not dominant as Kasparov. He may get there, but right now, there's no comparison.

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by simfoo » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:37 PM UTC

If you're interested in the match go watch Jerry on his channel on Youtube [0]. He's uploaded some great videos so far. He also livestreams the games on Twitch btw.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/user/ChessNetwork/videos

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by deletes » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:38 PM UTC

This is a video recording of the match with live commentary and analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_NGSn1MoI

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by jrs99 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:41 PM UTC

ibsathish wrote: post #3

Clearly shows a paradigm shift with the new generation taking over. Anand is around 44 years now and it's quite obvious that his mental reflexes would have slowed down while Carlsen is just half his age. Welcome Magnus, you are a prodigy. A real one.

i don't think there's a paradigm shift. winning the world championship in Chess is not like winning a World Championship in Boxing. These players play each other all the time, including in blitz. The paradigm has been clear for a while now.

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by dfan » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:42 PM UTC

jrs99 wrote: post #11

kadabra9 wrote: post #6

What's really scary about Carlsen is I don't think he's close to reaching his full potential yet. He's rapidly approaching the level of dominance in elite chess not seen since Fischer or Kasparov, and he's only 22. I can't think of anyone in the next Candidate's Tournament that would be a serious threat to take Carlsen's title, aside from maybe Kramnik. I'm also really interested to see the impact Carlsen winning the…

Carlsen is not dominant as Kasparov. He may get there, but right now, there's no comparison.

Sure there's a comparison. Kasparov maxed out at 79 points higher than the second-rated player (Kramnik). Carlsen is currently 70 points higher than the second-rated player (Aronian).

By the way, Fischer at his peak was 125 points ahead of the second-rated player, Spassky.

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by scottharveyco » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:43 PM UTC

Cherian wrote: post #9

ibsathish wrote: post #3

Clearly shows a paradigm shift with the new generation taking over. Anand is around 44 years now and it's quite obvious that his mental reflexes would have slowed down while Carlsen is just half his age. Welcome Magnus, you are a prodigy. A real one.

Do you think age has a lot to do in chess?

This graph shows a fairly consistent trend of a player´s rating peaking around the age of 30 and declining after that.

http://www.chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/AgeLists.asp?Params=

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by kamaal » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:46 PM UTC

Cherian wrote: post #9

ibsathish wrote: post #3

Clearly shows a paradigm shift with the new generation taking over. Anand is around 44 years now and it's quite obvious that his mental reflexes would have slowed down while Carlsen is just half his age. Welcome Magnus, you are a prodigy. A real one.

Do you think age has a lot to do in chess?

Well I don't know much about chess, but I've read some chess history off late. I think age should not be an issue.

But sometimes people go through rough times. It happens, people don't stay in form and the added pressure of the event makes people more desperate and to act in urgency. Big blunders happen in such situations. This isn't just restricted to chess. In nearly walk of life this happens.

I know some very brilliant people who make silly mistakes during urgent production issues.

We are humans after all. And we make mistakes.

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by denysonique » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:50 PM UTC

Hopefully Carlsen's becoming the FIDE World Champion will be loud in the media and will bring back the popularity of chess into our times.

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by jrs99 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:51 PM UTC

dfan wrote: post #15

jrs99 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carlsen is not dominant as Kasparov. He may get there, but right now, there's no comparison.

Sure there's a comparison. Kasparov maxed out at 79 points higher than the second-rated player (Kramnik). Carlsen is currently 70 points higher than the second-rated player (Aronian). By the way, Fischer at his peak was 125 points ahead of the second-rated player, Spassky.

James Harden is may be the best shooting guard in the NBA right now.

Jordan was the best shooting guard in his time.

Re: Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games

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Post by rikacomet » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:52 PM UTC

The worst part about that match is, Anand spent 50+ minute on one move, to loose all the time advantage he had pushed carlsen into.

First I thought, it was to make Carlsen loose his nerve, but he lost his own nerve, by moving Qe4, instead of slow push hh4. That was the turning point :( He went from winning position to a clear loss.

Also, I don't get the point of resigning, on this level, it should be a fight till the end, no matter how shameful.