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Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by mootothemax » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:29 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #46

mootothemax wrote: post #23

Sadly a better solution already exists: my 2012 Panasonic TV connects wirelessly to my network, and my laptop can stream videos to it without having to install anything , all via DLNA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Alliance Here's Panasonic's page outlining such features in their TVs: http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/VIERA+TV/VIER... It's a lovely idea for retrofitting to older TVs…

DLNA is emphatically not a better solution, or even equivalent. The spec defines only a limited number of file types that are allowed to function. Why on earth would I want to let multinational corporations decide which file types I want to use? For instance, MKV files, which would be in the top 2-3 file formats that most of us would want to use wireless streaming for in the first place, are not supported. All Apple…

DLNA is widely despised for the same reasons that all DRM-crippled products are always despised.

I question how despised DLNA really is, as I believe you might be letting your personal prejudices get in the way.

Non-techies (and plenty of techies, including myself) just don't care as long as a given solution works, and the DLNA solution is pretty hard to beat:

Plug in your TV, connect it to the network, and click on a video on your laptop to watch.

Out of interest, what kind of open source solution do you envisage when you say that "DLNA will die an instant and painful death the moment a truly open solution is adopted"?

Would it involve hardware, or something installed on the TV, or something else entirely?

All Apple products are, similarly, not supported.

FYI, my iPhone and iPad work just fine with it.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by zanny » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:34 PM UTC

Xylakant wrote: post #8

Does it support HDCP? I don't see any mention of it, but not supporting it would imply that you can't play your DRM-protected iTunes streams via an Airtame adapter. (I totally agree that DRM is fundamentally a broken idea, but alas, that's the current state of affairs).

State of affairs on itunes. How about not using iTunes for video?

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by LoneRanger » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:37 PM UTC

NO attention to detail at all. "Works with both Windows, Linux and Mac". LOL

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by Xylakant » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:40 PM UTC

zanny wrote: post #52

Xylakant wrote: post #8

Does it support HDCP? I don't see any mention of it, but not supporting it would imply that you can't play your DRM-protected iTunes streams via an Airtame adapter. (I totally agree that DRM is fundamentally a broken idea, but alas, that's the current state of affairs).

State of affairs on itunes. How about not using iTunes for video?

Sadly, any compliant player for HD-Content will do the same. I'd be surprised if you're more successful with netflix, but I can't test since I'm not a netflix customer. There's enough people reporting problems with netflix and not HDCP compliant setups though.

Open source players are fine, but there's still the problem of finding a streaming service that supports open-source players or even just HD content without DRM. Now, you can go and torrent all your videos you'd like to watch but some of use prefer the ease of use and the legality of using an existing streaming service.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by wil421 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:51 PM UTC

smrtinsert wrote: post #49

wil421 wrote: post #47

I could buy a Chromecast for half the price and use a free service to mirror my desktop for meetings. Or I could buy another Apple TV for a little more and have a lot more functionality and video outlets (HBO GO, Netflix etc.). Although this option only works if you use Macs. Or as another poster said just use the built in wifi on my TVs in my house.

I'll take dlna over a single corp solution like appletv any day of the week.

True but in my house I have had better luck with my apple tv than I have had streaming DLNA. Way too choppy.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by rjv » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

rvlt wrote: post #42

free652 wrote: post #36

What's the difference from Chromecast?

Chromecast works with youtube videos and google chrome tabs only (and it lags using tab casting)

Google Music, Hulu Plus, Netflix, and Pandora as well. I'd be shocked if it didn't offer more services in the next few months.

EDIT: And as of today, HBO Go.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by wil421 » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

tty wrote: post #20

davidbanham wrote: post #3

It's only marginally cheaper than an Apple TV.

Can I play content from a Linux machine on the Apple TV?

No but for us in the apple ecosystem it is a much better alternative.

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 1:53 PM UTC

alasano wrote: post #50

mihaifm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want a fast way to mirror my computer screen onto the TV (wirelessly). Does DLNA support this? From the description it's not clear. On the other hand I can clearly see that this project supports it, "Duplicate your screen" is the first feature listed there.

Chromecast has this feature, you can cast a tab or the entire screen in the beta option. I can stream a movie this way over wireless G, I imagine with a good N router there's a difference.

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Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by uptown » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:00 PM UTC

smrtinsert wrote: post #49

wil421 wrote: post #47

I could buy a Chromecast for half the price and use a free service to mirror my desktop for meetings. Or I could buy another Apple TV for a little more and have a lot more functionality and video outlets (HBO GO, Netflix etc.). Although this option only works if you use Macs. Or as another poster said just use the built in wifi on my TVs in my house.

I'll take dlna over a single corp solution like appletv any day of the week.

Even Wednesday?

Re: Wireless HDMI for Everyone

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Post by highphive » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 2:02 PM UTC

mootothemax wrote: post #51

Bud wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DLNA is emphatically not a better solution, or even equivalent. The spec defines only a limited number of file types that are allowed to function. Why on earth would I want to let multinational corporations decide which file types I want to use? For instance, MKV files, which would be in the top 2-3 file formats that most of us would want to use wireless streaming for in the first place, are not supported. All Apple…

DLNA is widely despised for the same reasons that all DRM-crippled products are always despised. I question how despised DLNA really is, as I believe you might be letting your personal prejudices get in the way. Non-techies (and plenty of techies, including myself) just don't care as long as a given solution works, and the DLNA solution is pretty hard to beat: Plug in your TV, connect it to the network, and click on…

"Out of interest, what kind of open source solution do you envisage when you say that "DLNA will die an instant and painful death the moment a truly open solution is adopted"? Would it involve hardware, or something installed on the TV, or something else entirely?"

Did you click the link? This is an example of a truly open solution, and it involves hardware.