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Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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post #100

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

No thanks to the cloud regarding my music. Even though I use the crap out of Google Music, it sucks at keeping track of diffs between locally and the cloud. I change album art and other metadata all the time. Real pain in the pass. And then there's always the case of where one won't have Internet access, especially when driving.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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post #12

Thank you Justin Frankel for this wonderfully whimsical piece of software and all the code you have shared over the years. I wouldn't have been a programmer if it weren't for you being providing such a stellar role model.

Some insights from him: http://bigthink.com/users/justinfrankel

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…

That's why you run your own "cloud" music service. Personally I use Subsonic, and it is amazing. http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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This seems like a good time to plug my latest open source project: libgroove [1] It's a cross-platform music player backend C library. It's meant to be generic enough to be the backend of any music player. I use it as the backend for Groove Basin [2] which just might hit milestone 1.0.0 around December 20. [1]: https://github.com/superjoe30/libgroove [2]: https://github.com/superjoe30/groovebasin

Nice interface, but what does groovebasin offer that mpd doesn't?

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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post #155

Show me 1 product/service/platform that got acquired by AOL and got better/bigger at there. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_AOL

Well, MapQuest probably isn't worse (although obviously it has been overtaken by Google Maps in popularity). MapQuest Open ( http://open.mapquest.com/ ) is actually a pretty good interface to OpenStreetMap; it does search, directions, and a good job of tile rendering.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…

you're only making the case for improvements to cloud data providers, not making the case that physical media is still worth using.

physical media has enormous problems for anything besides long term archival use.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

This is part of why I prefer cloud services like Dropbox that also maintain local copies and simply use the cloud for syncing and backups. Best of both worlds, that way.
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