Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
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Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
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Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#2> If you EVER plan on charging for your product you have to ask for money NOW
There are actually a lot of good reasons to wait before you start charging. Like, getting situated, getting everything working, working out the kinks, evaluating possible monetization models, etc. etc.
> The second one usually refers to media companies and massive networks like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. If you’re the next Twitter, Techcrunch, Facebook or Instagram then kudos. For the other 99.99999% of you who fall in the first group with the rest of us, if you haven’t asked your users to pay yet, then your startup is completely bullshit until you do.
Uhh, no. A lot of companies can work on this model. And do so. The examples are numerous.
And, what is it with this condescending style of writing? If the content of the article wasn't full of reductive, hand-wavy half-baked ideas, the arrogance in that entire piece would be forgivable. But that's not the situation it looks like.
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#3> If you EVER plan on charging for your product you have to ask for money NOW There are actually a lot of good reasons to wait before you start charging. Like, getting situated, getting everything working, working out the kinks, evaluating possible monetization models, etc. etc. > The second one usually refers to media companies and massive networks like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. If you’re the next Twitter, T…
"Like, getting situated, getting everything working, working out the kinks, evaluating possible monetization models, etc. etc."
What does getting situated mean? Working out what kinks? People aren't paying for your product they're paying for what they believe your product to be. Kinks don't matter.
"Uhh, no. A lot of companies can work on this model. And do so. The examples are numerous."
Lets hear them.
"And, what is it with this condescending style of writing? If the content of the article wasn't full of reductive, hand-wavy half-baked ideas, the arrogance in that entire piece would be forgivable. But that's not the situation it looks like."
Sounds a lot like your feedback.
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#4Is there a Marketer News for these posts?
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#5Is there a Marketer News for these posts?
How is this marketing? It's about validating an idea to make sure you're building the right thing.
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#6> If you EVER plan on charging for your product you have to ask for money NOW There are actually a lot of good reasons to wait before you start charging. Like, getting situated, getting everything working, working out the kinks, evaluating possible monetization models, etc. etc. > The second one usually refers to media companies and massive networks like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. If you’re the next Twitter, T…
"Like, getting situated, getting everything working, working out the kinks, evaluating possible monetization models, etc. etc." What does getting situated mean? Working out what kinks? People aren't paying for your product they're paying for what they believe your product to be. Kinks don't matter. "Uhh, no. A lot of companies can work on this model. And do so. The examples are numerous." Lets hear them. "And, what i…
I think what you're missing is that there are very different kinds of startup. There is the high stakes "next facebook or bust" kind, where it makes a lot of sense to first grow a userbase, get a lot of investors to pay you and take it from there. And then there's the "we are starting a business" kind of startup you seem to be talking about. And a lot in between.
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Like, getting situated, getting everything working, working out the kinks, evaluating possible monetization models, etc. etc." What does getting situated mean? Working out what kinks? People aren't paying for your product they're paying for what they believe your product to be. Kinks don't matter. "Uhh, no. A lot of companies can work on this model. And do so. The examples are numerous." Lets hear them. "And, what i…
I think what you're missing is that there are very different kinds of startup. There is the high stakes "next facebook or bust" kind, where it makes a lot of sense to first grow a userbase, get a lot of investors to pay you and take it from there. And then there's the "we are starting a business" kind of startup you seem to be talking about. And a lot in between.
Any examples?
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#8I see what you're getting at, but your language may have been a little bit too hard-hitting.
Shall we at least agree on the idea that "maybe some products should not be free and the creators should consider paying for them"?
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#9Is there a Marketer News for these posts?
Starting and growing businesses is very much within the scope of Hacker News.
Re: Your Product is Going to Fail if you Don’t Ask Users to Pay
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think what you're missing is that there are very different kinds of startup. There is the high stakes "next facebook or bust" kind, where it makes a lot of sense to first grow a userbase, get a lot of investors to pay you and take it from there. And then there's the "we are starting a business" kind of startup you seem to be talking about. And a lot in between.
Any examples?
I don't think examples are needed here, since this is just common sense.
Also if you could reply to the actual content of my post, that would be great.