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Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by Watabou »

lsv1 wrote: post #54

How about we get a Firefox that doesn't use a gig of RAM for 10 tabs? Or perhaps isn't slower than IE9 in jscript?

People still seem to make the statement that Firefox uses more RAM, when in fact, since Firefox 20, it has consistently used LESS ram than all the other browsers.

I have 40 tabs open now, and it's using 1.16 GB which is awesome. I actually want it to take up more because I have 6GB of free RAM not being used, which is a waste.

Compare that to chrome. Using the same number of tabs and it can easily take up more than 3GB of ram on my system, which is expected since each tab is a different process.

I wonder when Firefox's tabs will run on their own separate process. I'm looking forward to that. I think I saw some updates a month ago but I can't find that now.

(fwiw, I have 16GB of RAM)

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by sanyi »

untog wrote: post #67
sanyi wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how curved tabs are supposed to get "out of the way". The new design seems to use less standard UI elements to push it's own (WinXP / Fisher-Price) agenda: I don't see any gains here and I reckon they just want to appeal to the chrome crowd.

And I can't fathom why you'd focus in on curved tabs in this UI redesign. It's one of the smallest details.

Which is the big one then?

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by Osiris »

One interesting feature is the ability to customize the layout of the UI. Opera had some really great features for customization of UI and it's nice to see another browser doing it.

One thing I still haven't seen except in Opera: Tabs on the left or right. With widescreen monitors, I prefer my tabs on the left. Even better, tabs with thumbnails.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by lowkeykiwi »

WizzleKake wrote: post #58
mixmastamyk wrote: post #39

Do not want. I'm happy with the tabs provided with my OS theme and do not want each app to have tabs with a custom shape and wasted space. Do not want a rainbow in my title bar and have not met anyone > 12 that does. What is it with these people and their obsession with skinz! and constant rearranging of buttons?

Concur. The design people in Firefox lost me as a user when they decided to re-arrange an interface that had looked the same for the better part of a decade. Re-arrange, not improve. Apparently years of users' visual + muscle memory means nothing to these UX guys. I persevered with it for a while but eventually I just gave up and switched browsers. Shame, since I'd been using Firefox since its first release (called P…

I agree that rearranging for the sake of it is annoying but that 'original' interface is ugly.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by nly »

21echoes wrote: post #64
lsv1 wrote: post #54

How about we get a Firefox that doesn't use a gig of RAM for 10 tabs? Or perhaps isn't slower than IE9 in jscript?

Firefox has consistently been shown to use less RAM than all other browsers: http://media.bestofmicro.com/L/5/390857/original/memuse.png

Not only that, it's faster as well. Try closing a session of Chrome with 20 tabs open and then reopening it. On both Windows and Linux, Chrome can be extremely unresponsive in this scenario. FF lazy loads tabs so doesn't care to reload everything in the background when you restart your session.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by Avshalom »

WizzleKake wrote: post #58
mixmastamyk wrote: post #39

Do not want. I'm happy with the tabs provided with my OS theme and do not want each app to have tabs with a custom shape and wasted space. Do not want a rainbow in my title bar and have not met anyone > 12 that does. What is it with these people and their obsession with skinz! and constant rearranging of buttons?

Concur. The design people in Firefox lost me as a user when they decided to re-arrange an interface that had looked the same for the better part of a decade. Re-arrange, not improve. Apparently years of users' visual + muscle memory means nothing to these UX guys. I persevered with it for a while but eventually I just gave up and switched browsers. Shame, since I'd been using Firefox since its first release (called P…

FWIW, here's my user interface: http://imgur.com/ABi2XVO

which is to say, damn near identical modulo the GTK theme emulation. AND importantly the nightly build linked in the article completely respected my changes.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by bcj »

ahoge wrote: post #68

Looks pretty wasteful. I prefer how it currently looks on my machine: http://i.imgur.com/PvlTZ3k.png My tabs can get as small as the pinned ones on the left (which is the default behavior of every other browser). There used to be a about:config setting for minimum tab width, but one(!) Firefox developer decided to remove it, because: "Users can override this using userChrome.css if they absolutely want it. I don't th…

I also use a very minimal setup (http://imgur.com/NoCafoH).

On OSX, Australis will actually be thinner (once they fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=938985) because the window buttons are now on the same level as the tabs.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by SwellJoe »

ahoge wrote: post #68

Looks pretty wasteful. I prefer how it currently looks on my machine: http://i.imgur.com/PvlTZ3k.png My tabs can get as small as the pinned ones on the left (which is the default behavior of every other browser). There used to be a about:config setting for minimum tab width, but one(!) Firefox developer decided to remove it, because: "Users can override this using userChrome.css if they absolutely want it. I don't th…

I agree on this old UI failure...I thought for a moment it had been reverted, but then realized I had installed the Custom Tab Width add-on. The realization brought me back to my own extreme frustration with coming back to Firefox and finding this behavior being the default and not easily changed.

I'm generally OK with a lot of stuff being in add-ons. But, this one is not one of those things. I really don't think I should have to install a plugin to decide not to have a scrolling tab bar (I hate the scrolling tab bar).

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