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Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

#61

This is awesome news. One thing that I'm still hoping the Firefox team would integrate is the ability to clear all downloads from the dropdown menu once they're finished instead of having to open the downloads window.

Try right-clicking any download from the dropdown menu. There should be a "Clear List" option.

I had no idea that existed - thanks!

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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post #53

Maybe I'm blind, but it looks basically the same on Linux as it does now except the tabs are curved (and possibly take up more space!) I notice the tabs aren't sitting up in to the window manager in their Linux screenshot (understandable). I've already hidden the menu bar, then killed the window decorations for FF in KWin, so my tabs touch the top of the screen. In fact, Chrome actually uses a few more pixels than FF…

Maybe it's your OS? They look very different to me on Windows. The orange Firefox top menu is gone, the tabs have gained an "x" button, the "+" no longer has a border, the padding above the tabs is reduced, there are 3 new buttons on the search bar which is now larger and lost its colored background, and the forward button is gone. It looks more like Chrome than it does old Firefox. http://i.imgur.com/Y3ZFcD4.png

Yes, It has always looked different on Linux. Here's how Firefox 25 looks on KDE for me right now (entire screen).

http://i.imgur.com/bYDqi2L.png

with the exception of adblock on the right, that's the default layout.

Fyi, I also liked the orange button on Windows :(

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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post #49
post #10

It looks even more like chrome now. DISCLAIMER: I don't like chrome.

But there is a reason why Chrome looks like Chrome. Ironically, it's the lack of Chrome - the UI is unobtrusive and gets out of the way. I see the new Firefox UI in the same way.

I don't understand how curved tabs are supposed to get "out of the way". The new design seems to use less standard UI elements to push it's own (WinXP / Fisher-Price) agenda: I don't see any gains here and I reckon they just want to appeal to the chrome crowd.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

#65

Do not want. I'm happy with the tabs provided with my OS theme and do not want each app to have tabs with a custom shape and wasted space. Do not want a rainbow in my title bar and have not met anyone > 12 that does. What is it with these people and their obsession with skinz! and constant rearranging of buttons?

Concur. The design people in Firefox lost me as a user when they decided to re-arrange an interface that had looked the same for the better part of a decade. Re-arrange, not improve. Apparently years of users' visual + muscle memory means nothing to these UX guys. I persevered with it for a while but eventually I just gave up and switched browsers. Shame, since I'd been using Firefox since its first release (called P…

Well design is always subjective. I think before Firefox 4, the browser looked really stale and old (as does your screenshot)

And I don't think they really changed it much anyways. Many of the GUI elements are in the same position as before, there's nothing new to learn. A lot of them have been integrated, which is nice and reduces the unnecessary chrome.

I like Australis. To me, it looks more modern, even if it does look like Chrome. It feels like a step in the right direction.

I also don't mind them changing the UI of Firefox because most of the time, this is what I look at: http://d.pr/i/iEtP

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

#66
post #12

Hooray! Been waiting for this for a long time. I'll be especially happy if Mozilla can manage to improve the default look of Firefox on Linux, where it's just absolutely dreadful (and where I'm usually forced to resort to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fxchrome/ to preserve my sanity).

I only hope they're also getting rid of GTK icons on the main chrome. They make (unthemed) Firefox on a high-DPI screen completely unusable.

(Why? Scaling up page content (via layout.css.devPixelsPerPx) also scales up chrome, including the (already properly sized) icons­— so every icon in Fx ends up being four times larger than it should.)

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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post #63
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there is a reason why Chrome looks like Chrome. Ironically, it's the lack of Chrome - the UI is unobtrusive and gets out of the way. I see the new Firefox UI in the same way.

I don't understand how curved tabs are supposed to get "out of the way". The new design seems to use less standard UI elements to push it's own (WinXP / Fisher-Price) agenda: I don't see any gains here and I reckon they just want to appeal to the chrome crowd.

And I can't fathom why you'd focus in on curved tabs in this UI redesign. It's one of the smallest details.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

#68
Looks pretty wasteful. I prefer how it currently looks on my machine:

http://i.imgur.com/PvlTZ3k.png

My tabs can get as small as the pinned ones on the left (which is the default behavior of every other browser).

There used to be a about:config setting for minimum tab width, but one(!) Firefox developer decided to remove it, because:

"Users can override this using userChrome.css if they absolutely want it. I don't think the prefs are worth it."[1]

Now I have to use a custom user chrome CSS file and disable the tab animations to get the same effect.

I really hope this pointless update won't make me jump through a dozen hoops again. I'm tired of it.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574654

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

#70
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's your OS? They look very different to me on Windows. The orange Firefox top menu is gone, the tabs have gained an "x" button, the "+" no longer has a border, the padding above the tabs is reduced, there are 3 new buttons on the search bar which is now larger and lost its colored background, and the forward button is gone. It looks more like Chrome than it does old Firefox. http://i.imgur.com/Y3ZFcD4.png

Yes, It has always looked different on Linux. Here's how Firefox 25 looks on KDE for me right now (entire screen). http://i.imgur.com/bYDqi2L.png with the exception of adblock on the right, that's the default layout. Fyi, I also liked the orange button on Windows :(

The OSX version also looks closer to that than the Windows version. There is no orange "Firefox" bar, and tabs already have x's on them.
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