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Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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I am running two Tor nodes on two raspberries: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B679923178D2B63F22C984... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0A7028F6600F940D1A680A... A single pi can push about 600 kb/s. This includes a lot of circuit requests and other encryption. Thinking of buying some more.

My tor nodes (bridge relay) on my Pi seems to go into "Relay unresponsive" and sometimes crash with what looks like circuit storms, experienced any of that on the Pi?

Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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I am running two Tor nodes on two raspberries: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B679923178D2B63F22C984... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0A7028F6600F940D1A680A... A single pi can push about 600 kb/s. This includes a lot of circuit requests and other encryption. Thinking of buying some more.

Interesting - I've been thinking about doing this for a while. So I take it from the atlas page that you are running a standard (non-exit) relay?

Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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What's the plan for future devices? It would be great if some low cost device like this would have a 12-18 month upgrade cycle and create the sort of buzz as an Apple or Samsung device. Moore's law has benefits at $30 too. Maybe release a $99 version every year then make last year's model available at $35. Get Intel involved? They're really working hard to get into low-power devices.

Intel's chips are still more expensive than ARM's chips, at the same level. Intel isn't interested in making pennies in profit for each chip. For all we know the Atom division isn't even profitable these days, since the disappearance of netbooks and the very slow adoption in mobile, but being subsidized by the other chip divisions.

It would also be a very bad move for Raspberry to get involved with a company like Intel, and get themselves stuck with a historically abusive partner, that often tells you it's their way or the highway, like they did when they forced OEM's to buy their CPUs integrated with their GPUs, even if the OEMs already wanted to buy discrete GPUs. They're in a much better position picking a chip maker out of the dozen or so ARM chip makers.

I agree they should upgrade their chips, though, and maybe even have higher-end ones. Even now there are $200 ARM boards, which is what one that is 10-15x more powerful than Raspberry Pi would cost right now. However, I'd rather they don't split the architecture support by software vendors in 3: ARMv6(currently), ARMv7, and ARM8. I think they'd be better off just waiting it out until they are ready for ARMv8.

Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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post #11
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I am running two Tor nodes on two raspberries: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B679923178D2B63F22C984... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0A7028F6600F940D1A680A... A single pi can push about 600 kb/s. This includes a lot of circuit requests and other encryption. Thinking of buying some more.

My tor nodes (bridge relay) on my Pi seems to go into "Relay unresponsive" and sometimes crash with what looks like circuit storms, experienced any of that on the Pi?

No, not really.

What happens sometimes is that there is insufficient memory. This happens if you do a lot of apt-get update and upgrade, or run other stuff. My relay just starts at boot and then does nothing else.

EDIT: I chose 600 kb/s because this means that my cpu (almost) never hits 100%, but is still pretty active.

Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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I am running two Tor nodes on two raspberries: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/B679923178D2B63F22C984... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0A7028F6600F940D1A680A... A single pi can push about 600 kb/s. This includes a lot of circuit requests and other encryption. Thinking of buying some more.

Interesting - I've been thinking about doing this for a while. So I take it from the atlas page that you are running a standard (non-exit) relay?

Yes. As you can see my first relay started out as an exit relay, but my fascist ISP (whom I can not choose or contact) kept on blocking my router's mac address, which made my relay unstable. Since I am not an exit anymore the relay has been running fine.

Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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What's the plan for future devices? It would be great if some low cost device like this would have a 12-18 month upgrade cycle and create the sort of buzz as an Apple or Samsung device. Moore's law has benefits at $30 too. Maybe release a $99 version every year then make last year's model available at $35. Get Intel involved? They're really working hard to get into low-power devices.

Yes! I am waiting desperately for a Raspberry Pi with an updated CPU!

Try a Beaglebone Black. Or move up to something like a Boundary Devices unit (Quad-core A9 @ 1Ghz)

Re: Two million Raspberry Pi sold

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One of those two million is sat under my desk, collecting dust. I know a few others that are, and, I wonder what percentage of that 2 million are in the same situation?

Because you need a few bits and bobs to get your pi working there is a major disincentive to complete and finish whatever that hobby project was to be. Hence the situation with my pi - the wait for bits and bobs, a small bout of illness and the initial enthusiasm gone.

I think that the price of those extra bits and bobs is also quite a bit. Sure, everyone has spare power supplies and SD cards knocking around, but maybe not a spare video lead, keyboard, mouse, whatever is needed for the project. Just one of these parts missing from the misc. hardware drawer means a hurdle to getting started.

It is bit like buying a barebones car where you just need to put in a motor, a few seats, a few door panels, oh, and paint it yourself. You would learn a lot about auto engineering, for sure, but, it would cost more than initially expected.

What I would like to see is a raspberry pi that works like a 'hardware virtualbox', networking over USB, power over the same lead so you just plug it into your PC/Mac and you have something right there, ready for whatever web/hardware development needed.

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