Earlier quoted context omitted.
This one covers it pretty well: http://dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/
this one's better: http://dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/
Meh, I opened all three of those in new tabs.
What 4chan thinks of HN
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Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#222Sadly, most of the things on there are true. We can try to deny it all we want, but most of the stuff that's there is true. The power of anonymity is that you get to voice honest opinions without tying it up with your identity and/or feeling responsible for it. Of course, this can be argued otherwise too, by citing some (bad) comments as example from that thread, but for the most part, what you see there are honest c…
It's not sad if it's true. But you / we are still here, aren't you / we?
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are actually rampaging Stallman bots that will post those. It's pretty great, actually. New startup idea: Stallman-as-a-service.
Well, here's Stallman as a shell 1-liner curl -s "http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman" |grep " " | grep -v -E "(Chapter|href|Source:)" | perl -MList::Util -e 'print List::Util::shuffle ' | head -n1 | sed -E -e "s# ##g"
First try:
"I'm the last survivor of a dead culture, and I don't really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways I feel I ought to be dead."
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#224How could they have left out the patronizing irrelevant [0] links [1] to Wikipedia [2] in all the wannabe-academic [3] comments with references[4]? (and yes, references must be 0-based [5]) [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relevance [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_resource_locator [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academia [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation [5…
Parodies are usually funny because they're true. The citations in HN comments are some of the most valuable contributions to the site. This whole post is depressing. Far from lighthearted fun, these comments all have an undercurrent of hostility ("wannabe-academic"). The mosaic formed by these comments imply pg has harmed the world by creating HN. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine where you'd be fo…
Slashdot?
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#225Surely this isn't what 4chan things of HN. But rather what HN thinks of itself. To come up with such a good parody you have to be really knowledgeable about the thing you are making fun off.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha, at risk of completely fitting the stereotype 4chan is setting out for us: *Silicon Valley startup culture. It is very different in other places, really!
*HN culture
Agreed. When actually spending time in Silicon Valley I found out about a bunch of companies who basically never show up on Hacker News except for Who's Hiring threads because they're too busy with actual technology to brag about web-frontends.
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#227I love how anonymity engenders such honest commentary. When people aren't tied down to their reputation/ego, they are free to say what they really think.
Is this something thats specific to 4chan? I'm not aware of any other popular anonymous boards
4chan started as a clone of the Japanese Futaba imageboard, which was itself a variation on the premise of the (also Japanese) 2ch text board.
Other people have since made sites that, as I understand them, boil down to "4chan for people that speak language X" (eg Krautchan (German), Ylilauta (Finnish)) which are themselves fairly popular and influential.
Beyond that, there are many small and interesting English-language boards that aren't "just for porn," but as krapp said, most aren't very popular, but tend to have tightly knit communities (as strange as that sounds, talking about an anonymous board) that I'd feel wrong drawing unwanted attention to.
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#228I'm actually really surprised they seem to think that the HN community is anti-sexist. Compared to 4chan, maybe, but from my experience it isn't at all.
I imagine because 'doing shots with your boss is a sexual thing and a dumb idea, and someone kissing you is an unwelcome advance but not assault' is a point that resonated with a lot of people. 'Kissing your subordinate at work' is also a dumb idea, of course. But, from reading the reports of the other people there, this was an illegitimate accusation of sexual assault, and what amounted to a dumb guy who escalated a…
Kissing someone who doesn't want to be kissed is sexual assault! I don't understand how you can be denying that? It definitely definitely is sexual assault. If you want to kiss somebody and you want to not sexually assault them, you have to ask them first. And you have to give them room to say no and consider the social power you have over them. Did this person do that? No, absolutely not. If you don't think this stuff is important then it's because you're obviously a man who has never had to deal with this kind of stuff.
And even if for some reason, you feel so strongly that the definition of sexual assault should not include the incident you're talking about, and you don't have any problem with taking away the power of survivors to define their experiences as sexual assault, then okay, fine, you can have your own private definition of sexual assault. But do you really think that's the most important thing here? You obviously have no empathy for the survivor at all. The “dumb guy” doesn't deserve to have his life ruined? Maybe, maybe not, but you shouldn't worry about it, because only 3% of rapes ever punished anyway.[1] But it's not about the perpetrator, it's about the survivor. Does she deserve to have her life ruined? Of course she doesn't, because she's done nothing wrong (fuck you for victim blaming). But this could have ruined her life, and maybe it did (I don't know her, I don't know).
And by the way, "escalat[ing] an existing sexual situation" are just your weasel words for "crossing boundaries without permission". You always have to ask permission, and it's not hard to do so, and it's nice as well. If you're not a rapist, then you don't want to cross people's boundaries, so you don't want to do something if the other person doesn't want to. You might want to read the definition of rape-mindedness.[2]
Thanks for proving my point.
[1]: http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-ra...
[2]: http://radtransfem.tumblr.com/post/30163502692/tw-what-rape-...
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
(I'm assuming you're using "anti-sexist" to mean "feminist" rather than its literal definition.) A little over a year ago, there was a lot of third-wave feminist activism here after several "Atheism Plus" communities mentioned Hacker News. Gradually, people started standing up to them, and their activism is not nearly as prominent. On a side note: If you're curious about "Atheism Plus", it's a set of communities that…
Yeah, I'm actually surprised feminists aren't more unpopular at times, because they do this with essentially anything resembling activism that isn't feminism : they go in and insist that members of that group focus on their form of feminism to the exclusion of whatever the group's actually about. (Often making use of the fact they have far more contacts and influence in the media to portray any dissent as women-hatin…
I don't think feminists have anywhere near as much social power as you seem to think they have. And the ones that do are white, liberal feminists. Most other feminists dislike them too (but not for the same reasons).
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine because 'doing shots with your boss is a sexual thing and a dumb idea, and someone kissing you is an unwelcome advance but not assault' is a point that resonated with a lot of people. 'Kissing your subordinate at work' is also a dumb idea, of course. But, from reading the reports of the other people there, this was an illegitimate accusation of sexual assault, and what amounted to a dumb guy who escalated a…
Kissing someone who doesn't want to be kissed is sexual assault! I don't understand how you can be denying that? It definitely definitely is sexual assault. If you want to kiss somebody and you want to not sexually assault them, you have to ask them first. And you have to give them room to say no and consider the social power you have over them. Did this person do that? No, absolutely not. If you don't think this stu…
I really wasn't sure if you were a parody account created by 4chan for amusement purposes, but apparently you've been here a while, so:
- Sexual boundaries were already crossed at the stage of people willingly doing body shots off each other.
- You are discussing rape. Nobody at any point has alleged rape. Rape is a serious criminal allegation you really shouldn't be bandying about lightly.
- She /survived/ an unwanted kiss? Are you sure that is an appropriate definition of 'survived'?
- "The 'dumb guy' doesn't deserve to have his life ruined? Maybe..." You're "maybe" sure someone doesn't deserve to have their life ruined?
- What defines one person as the victim and the other as the perpetrator? Who do you think came out worse for this interaction, the person blogging about their assault or the person who, when asked not to do sexual things, stopped, and then was accused of sexual assault across the entire internet?
- Please use grown up language. 'fuck you' is not grown up language. See: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Me pointing out that two people did stupid things is not 'rape minded'. You are attempting to shame me for disagreeing with you, which is morally reprehensible.