So I don't work for Google and I've never worked for Google. I do, however, have two things you might want to keep in mind: 1. Google, according to Wikipedia, has 46,000 employees. The number of employees who are in a position to influence policy regarding Google+ adoption over the Google suite of products is likely less than one hundred (or .2%). It is entirely possible -- likely, even! -- that the other 99.8% of th…
Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
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Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#22After all, for them, it's not a barren wasteland. They have a very active network (coworkers/friends). I don't think this answers your question, however most Googlers like G+.
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#23There is also a dead comment by Gthrowaway1 in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6732425
What are you linking to? The only comment about what Gthrowaway1 said is about Gthrowaway1 deleting the comment.
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Gthrowaway1 2 days ago | link [dead]
The Google bashing is well deserved. Even people at Google despise Vic Gundotra (just check memegen.googleplex.com today), yet this incompetent figure is allowed to continue alienating users and driving Google's brand into the ground.
Vic, do us a favor: Go back to Microsoft and never return!
Disclaimer: I work for Google.
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#24It seems simple, honestly. The likelihood that people will stop using YouTube because of G+ is nil.
It's quite the opposite for me. I've started moving my stuff off of Google as this was one of the last straws in my book. I'd already switched to using DDG and Startpage for my searches and am currently in the process of moving my Google apps email to my own server. When that's done I plan on deleting my Youtube and Google accounts. This latest Google+ push has made me realize just how far Google is willing to go to…
See also: Facebook. A lot of noise was made about facebook privacy (inside the HN and other tech eco chambers) and a lot of noise was made about people quitting facebook because of privacy. But in reality probably only .00000001% of facebook users probably quit because of privacy reasons, which is probably a drop in a bucket compare to the amount of new users they get everyday.
Google is doing this because they can. They are in a market dominant position with both youtube and Google search that they can afford to make decision, which in hindsight might not be popular with some users, but will close to nothing to harm their bottom line.
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#25It seems simple, honestly. The likelihood that people will stop using YouTube because of G+ is nil.
It's quite the opposite for me. I've started moving my stuff off of Google as this was one of the last straws in my book. I'd already switched to using DDG and Startpage for my searches and am currently in the process of moving my Google apps email to my own server. When that's done I plan on deleting my Youtube and Google accounts. This latest Google+ push has made me realize just how far Google is willing to go to…
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#26It seems simple, honestly. The likelihood that people will stop using YouTube because of G+ is nil.
It's quite the opposite for me. I've started moving my stuff off of Google as this was one of the last straws in my book. I'd already switched to using DDG and Startpage for my searches and am currently in the process of moving my Google apps email to my own server. When that's done I plan on deleting my Youtube and Google accounts. This latest Google+ push has made me realize just how far Google is willing to go to…
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#27In addition to what other people have said: Googlers love Google Plus. I haven't met a Googler (and, I know many) that doesn't love it. After all, for them, it's not a barren wasteland. They have a very active network (coworkers/friends). I don't think this answers your question, however most Googlers like G+.
But a better social product means nothing without an active network of users.
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#28So I don't work for Google and I've never worked for Google. I do, however, have two things you might want to keep in mind: 1. Google, according to Wikipedia, has 46,000 employees. The number of employees who are in a position to influence policy regarding Google+ adoption over the Google suite of products is likely less than one hundred (or .2%). It is entirely possible -- likely, even! -- that the other 99.8% of th…
I don't know what you were thinking when you added those interjections to every other sentence but this post is condescending as hell.
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#29I work pretty high up at Google, and I (obviously) made this account to post in this thread. Google is effectively "dead" in my opinion, and this mirrors (at least in my experience) the feelings of many of our other higher-ups who are concerned with technology rather than the business. Everything has stagnated, it's no longer fun to work here, and it's entirely about making money now. The claims that we don't bend ov…
Re: Ask HN: Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users?
#30 * It's silly to force users to have separate accounts for
Google services because most users would prefer to have
Gmail, Docs/Drive, YouTube, Calendar, and so on under the
same account/identity.
* Users who want to have separate public identities will
create pseudonymous "Pages" for each of their identities.
These pages will still be owned by the same account, so
the user only has to log in once.
* Users who are strongly opposed to a unified Google account
are a sufficiently small population that it is acceptable
to inconvenience them if doing so improves the experience
of every other user.
By itself, these arguments are reasonable and could probably have been implemented without too much trouble (though "Pages" continues to be a confusing and unclear term). The problem is that the new account system was introduced at the exact same time as a social network, with the /same name/, and that the social network decided to inject a hard requirement of Facebook-style name validation rules into the new profile system.Now the term "Google+" has become so strongly connected with the Google+ social network (and its infamous names policy) that any attempt to expand the Google+ account system is met with fear and outrage. I don't think upper management expected this or understands why the community reacted thus, just as they didn't expect or understand why requiring a Firstname Lastname format on the Internet was problematic.
I don't believe Google+ management is malicious, but they do seem woefully unaware of how internet-native communities behave.