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Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I've applied to Hacker School twice and found them to be short, impersonal and sometimes even rude to me during the interview process. They asked questions that struck me as inviting me to participate in "dickwaving" rather than talking about the nuance of my work or the problems I've engaged with. Such as "what's the hardest thing you have ever done?" I've never seriously thought abo…

Hacker School founder here.

I'm sorry to hear you had a negative experience applying :( A few thoughts:

1) Our interviews are definitely short, which is a consequence of our wanting to give as many people an interview as possible. Even with our interviews as short as they are, we typically spend 200+ hours doing interviews each batch. So while we'd love to do longer interviews, it'd mean interviewing many fewer people, which we don't think is a good tradeoff (either for us or for applicants in general).

2) Again, because of time constraints, we can't give everyone detailed, specific feedback. However, if you email me (nick [at] hackerschool.com) the email address you applied with, I will do my best to get you specific feedback on your code.

3) I'm the first to admit that our admissions process is far from perfect. It's undoubtedly one of the hardest, most psychologically draining parts of running Hacker School. Even if we assume we get it "right" 95% of the time (which is probably way too generous to us), it still means we're going to make dozens of mistakes each batch :(

4) We occasionally will ask people questions along the lines of "what's the hardest thing you've worked on?" We've found this usually leads to a discussion of interesting challenges and problems people have faced, how they've approached them, etc. It's in no meant to be "dickwaving" or in any way arrogant.

I hope whatever other path you've ended up on to continue growing as a programmer has been fruitful and enjoyable!

Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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Serious question: Can someone recommend a program or type of program to code for my example that would show I'm capable? I'm a self-taught beginner but I want to tackle something that would be more intermediate to demonstrate I have gumption. Right now I'm coding an entire redo of my state's legislative site because I find it lacking in too many ways but there's not really any JS in there that I would say is impressi…

Hmm, how about if you build some kind of API to the legislative site's data somehow? Bills coming up, etc.? Or whatever data is there. Then a widget could display the data on other sites. Just a (very conventional) thought.

That's a good idea, haven't attempted an API yet (and it would be one of the next steps for the project anyway)

Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I've applied to Hacker School twice and found them to be short, impersonal and sometimes even rude to me during the interview process. They asked questions that struck me as inviting me to participate in "dickwaving" rather than talking about the nuance of my work or the problems I've engaged with. Such as "what's the hardest thing you have ever done?" I've never seriously thought abo…

"But I really felt like I was treated terribly as an applicant, and the facilitators came off as having a high regard for themselves and engineering arrogance rather than being interested in helping people and being constructive."

I attended Hacker School Winter 2013. No community is perfect, of course, and it sucks that you felt you were treated that way. But my experience in and out of hacker school is that it is about the least arrogant community of hackers ever. It explicitly discourages the sort of "dickwaving" you're complaining about, and the group does a good job of pushing aside arrogance by being nice, encouraging, and enthusiastic. All those good behaviors just come out more naturally when you're surrounded by other people exhibiting them, and in my experience the facilitators totally lead the way on that.

Which is not to say you didn't have a crappy experience, because everyone has bad days. And it's not to say there's zero arrogance at hacker school because, well... programmers. But in general, I think it is a super helpful and constructive place.

Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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post #12

Serious question: Can someone recommend a program or type of program to code for my example that would show I'm capable? I'm a self-taught beginner but I want to tackle something that would be more intermediate to demonstrate I have gumption. Right now I'm coding an entire redo of my state's legislative site because I find it lacking in too many ways but there's not really any JS in there that I would say is impressi…

I don't think it has to be in-depth. I just made an implementation of Blackjack in Python. The rules are very easy to code up, and the AI (the dealer) is actually hard-coded by the rules, so no nasty trees or recursion.

It also allowed me to demonstrate my knowledge of object oriented programming, program design, etc.

I would probably recommend something other than a mostly HMTL/CSS website because that doesn't show off your programming chops very well.

Don't stress about it too much!

Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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I'm not against affirmative action on principle, but does anyone else find it a little strange that the need-based grants are only available to female programmers? They could bias the admission process in favor of female applicants (or other underrepresented demographics) without conflating financial issues, right? Or there aren't even enough female applicants without this incentive to allow for that?

> They could bias the admission process in favor of female applicants (or other underrepresented demographics) without conflating financial issues, right?

They could, but would that honestly be better? Would you want them to lower standards for women or reject highly qualified (male) applicants just to make room for more female applicants in the accepted pool?

It's not an ideal solution, but considering the school is tuition-free for everybody, regardless of gender, I don't think this approach is all that bad.

Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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For those who've attended this school or are otherwise just familiar enough to answer this question, what's the expected total cost of living over the course of the program? Is it common for students to find shared living arrangements to cut down on NYC rents?

Re: Apply to the Winter 2014 Batch of Hacker School

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post #27

For those who've attended this school or are otherwise just familiar enough to answer this question, what's the expected total cost of living over the course of the program? Is it common for students to find shared living arrangements to cut down on NYC rents?

I've love to get an idea of this too. Hacker School seems pretty appealing but I'm not sure if I would be able to afford huge costs (I've read in some blog posts that the cost of living is pretty high, especially short term).
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