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Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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These "people" are looking to profit from misery ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6742844 ). Wikileaks is attempting to provide transparency in a world where that doesn't much exist so boo-fucking-hoo if somebody's Mastercard gets leaked in the process. Mass dumps aren't adding any more "ammunition" for their detractors than some sort of filtered dump would. Detractors don't need much of a reason to dislike wha…

You know who else profits from misery? Doctors, and funeral home owners. Pretty much anyone in the media. I certainly hope my doctor isn't making terrible jokes about how much money he's going to make from my disease, but even if he was, it wouldn't be illegal nor would I find it a justifiable reason to leak his personal information (let alone his clients' information!). You also assume everyone is already split into…

They don't create or facilitate misery though..

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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No, the action of selling weapons to both sides is much different than someone simply talking about it. Giving someone the ability to make money selling weapons has its own problems - which will incentivize those people who are looking to make profit do things they wouldn't normally otherwise do, and then worse - if they have the ability to sell weapons to both sides of a battle or war, what might they be willing to…

Please do some research before you make accusations like this. I have seen zero evidence that they're involved in the arms trade whatsoever . Your conclusion to the contrary is based on a misreading of a bad joke taken out of context. See my other comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6743185

Also, when's Turntable.fm making its way to Canada? :) I know I could use a way to pretend I'm in the U.S. - though I'd rather not circumvent.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Question for game theorists: Is here a realistic scenario under which the entire world could disarm and shift from coming up with better ways to kill people to more constructive pursuits. Please don't say "A visit from Vulcans"

> realistic scenario No. Because humans don't follow game theory. Killing people hasn't come about because of rational application of theories. It comes about from evolution. We, as a race, are aggressive, territorial, greedy, exploiters because that has been, recently, a winning strategy vs the other organisms and environment on this planet. Unfortunately, for us, evolution doesn't care about long term. It's fine wi…

Transhumanism will override all the genetically programmed behaviour :)

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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I'm going to say that the video is almost certainly not real and is in fact a training video.

A training video? Showing them how to behave like barbaric cunts?

Do you have any context for the video whatsoever?

No?

OK, then maybe don't jump to conclusions. One possibility is that it's a training video for a "watch this then report what happened" sort of thing, which are very common and may not even be affiliated with an actual police department.

Consider the presence of a camera crew (the filmer is way too close to an armed officer to be a bystander). Also notice how there is no blood and no physicality related to a body being hit by bullets.

For all we know this could be a training video to help cops avoid this sort of thing. What sort of twisted world do you live in where you would imagine that any police department in America could explicitly set out to train its police to cold-bloodedly murder people?

Everything related to this video screams of it not depicting an actual event.

Edit: videos of the police committing murder or negligent homicide do exist but there is generally far more context with those videos and they are tied to well known cases.

Edit2: I've watched the video a few more times now and I've noticed some important details which aren't very obvious due to the low resolution of the video. First, the civilian has another gun which he retrieves from behind his back, you can see it in his hands in the last few frames of the film. Second, the "police" are not in uniform nor do they have any police insignia present yet they are wearing bulletproof vests. If they were plain clothes cops they would not have their vests on above their clothes. If they were police on duty they would have badges, insignia, etc.

My guess is that this is a training video or video of training, maybe for police, possibly for private security.

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I'm about to throw up. Here's what that message was a reply to: -----Original Message----- From: eisenstein@stratfor.com [mailto:eisenstein@stratfor.com] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:02 AM To: Fred Burton Cc: Subject: Re: Reva rocks Will be glad to supply weapons to both sides if India and Pakistan want a cage match. India gets the net and trident and the pakistanis get the shield and short sword. Kamran can…

These people should be hung.

I believe you mean "hanged".

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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I'm about to throw up. Here's what that message was a reply to: -----Original Message----- From: eisenstein@stratfor.com [mailto:eisenstein@stratfor.com] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:02 AM To: Fred Burton Cc: Subject: Re: Reva rocks Will be glad to supply weapons to both sides if India and Pakistan want a cage match. India gets the net and trident and the pakistanis get the shield and short sword. Kamran can…

I'm assuming that there is some sort of Star Trek universe remake of the scene from Spartacus, but I can't seem to find it. If so, does it have the same set-up (slave gladiators battling for the amusement of the elites)? I'm not entirely sure this makes sense...

Its actually a reference to the classic gladiator match up with side order of trek in joke's.

I must be one of the few HN commentator apart form Matt Cuts who has ever studied the classics.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Oh, this is so classy: https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=8402 Quote: Oh, they have enough weapons. Now the serious game begins as Reva pointed out. The investigation of the attack is not interesting. I suspect the findings have already been reached before the first investigator got to work. Now the question is how India responds. God willing, the Indian response will make us a lot of money. This after…

I'm about to throw up. Here's what that message was a reply to: -----Original Message----- From: eisenstein@stratfor.com [mailto:eisenstein@stratfor.com] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:02 AM To: Fred Burton Cc: Subject: Re: Reva rocks Will be glad to supply weapons to both sides if India and Pakistan want a cage match. India gets the net and trident and the pakistanis get the shield and short sword. Kamran can…

So WikiLeaks are policing black humour now? Do we need to submit all bad taste jokes in advance to see if they are be approved or not?

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Wiki leaks is embarrassing itself. Stratfor is a silly bunch of blowhards who repackage the Economist for gullible subscribers who think these jokers are some secret intelligence agents.

Actually, Stratfor tends to have a unique perspective on the news. I've been signed up for their free email thread for a while, and while I've never been blown away, they do have a better-than-most longform approach to news. It definitely beats CNN.

>It definitely beats CNN.

Damned by faint praise...

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