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What do you mean by "these kinds of people"? Greedy people? People who say things that are tasteless and mean? I'm pretty sure there's no law against any of that. Please enlighten me re: the law they've broken, otherwise I hope you can see the inherent irony in your statement... edit: I'm not being ornery, I'm really actually curious what people think they should go to prison for. Tastelessness != criminality.

If they are actually engaged in selling weapons; well, arms trafficking is generally a crime unless you are very close to your government and very up to date on the paperwork. And even then most people would consider it a "moral crime", to profit from the misery of war.

The weapons they mention are traditional Roman gladiatorial weapons. I think that they're meant to be taken literally but are simply a reference to the presumed entertainment value (sigh). And honestly, even if literal giving swords to an army with automatic rifles is just giving them ceremonial props, not weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retiarius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murmillo

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I'm about to throw up. Here's what that message was a reply to: -----Original Message----- From: eisenstein@stratfor.com [mailto:eisenstein@stratfor.com] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:02 AM To: Fred Burton Cc: Subject: Re: Reva rocks Will be glad to supply weapons to both sides if India and Pakistan want a cage match. India gets the net and trident and the pakistanis get the shield and short sword. Kamran can…

These people should be hung.

People who say something you don't like should be lynched? Really? How about what you are doing, advocating for someone's murder?

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These "people" are looking to profit from misery ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6742844 ). Wikileaks is attempting to provide transparency in a world where that doesn't much exist so boo-fucking-hoo if somebody's Mastercard gets leaked in the process. Mass dumps aren't adding any more "ammunition" for their detractors than some sort of filtered dump would. Detractors don't need much of a reason to dislike wha…

You know who else profits from misery? Doctors, and funeral home owners. Pretty much anyone in the media. I certainly hope my doctor isn't making terrible jokes about how much money he's going to make from my disease, but even if he was, it wouldn't be illegal nor would I find it a justifiable reason to leak his personal information (let alone his clients' information!). You also assume everyone is already split into…

It negatively affects my view of Stratfor that they are not PCI compliant and have this sort of credit card information just lying around in emails. That is pretty grossly irresponsible.

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These people should be hung.

People who say something you don't like should be lynched? Really? How about what you are doing, advocating for someone's murder?

They didn't advocate murder, only a sentence. It's a way of expressing a preference that something be illegal, and have a particular punishment.

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It's a weird feeling reading other people's email. I'm sad to see Wikileaks didn't at least do a quick regex pass to remove the credit cards (yup, found some) and the personal love notes. I'm generally a supporter of Wikileaks, but mass dumps like this aren't responsible and only give more ammunition to their detractors.

It has been quite long enough since the Stratfor data breach for the CC companies to close & reissue new card numbers. This is much ado about nothing.

Exactly what cause has been advanced by making them available?

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These kinds of people need to be in prison, not the people exposing what they're doing.

What do you mean by "these kinds of people"? Greedy people? People who say things that are tasteless and mean? I'm pretty sure there's no law against any of that. Please enlighten me re: the law they've broken, otherwise I hope you can see the inherent irony in your statement... edit: I'm not being ornery, I'm really actually curious what people think they should go to prison for. Tastelessness != criminality.

I'm really actually curious what people think they should go to prison for.

Terrorism, for material support of international war for commercial gain.

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You know who else profits from misery? Doctors, and funeral home owners. Pretty much anyone in the media. I certainly hope my doctor isn't making terrible jokes about how much money he's going to make from my disease, but even if he was, it wouldn't be illegal nor would I find it a justifiable reason to leak his personal information (let alone his clients' information!). You also assume everyone is already split into…

It negatively affects my view of Stratfor that they are not PCI compliant and have this sort of credit card information just lying around in emails. That is pretty grossly irresponsible.

Agreed. It affected my view negatively enough that I am no longer a subscriber. But somehow dumping all the credit cards on the Internet seems even more grossly irresponsible to me.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Question for game theorists: Is here a realistic scenario under which the entire world could disarm and shift from coming up with better ways to kill people to more constructive pursuits. Please don't say "A visit from Vulcans"

For some entertaining, game theoretic exploration of this topic, I recommend reading Liar Game[1].

[1] http://mangafox.me/manga/liar_game/

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