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Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by joshfraser »

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?relid=402#searchresult

Subject: Re: GOOGLE & Iran internal use only - pls do not forward

GOOGLE is getting WH and State Dept. support & air cover. In reality, they are doing things the CIA cannot do. But, I agree with you. He's going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose GOOGLE's covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Govt can then disavow knowledge and GOOGLE is left holding the shit bag.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by freshhawk »

r00fus wrote: post #16

Is it more, or do these leaks paint StratFor as something along the lines of a "conflict investment firm" on the lines of Richard Morgan's Market Forces [1]? Jacket cover description excerpt: "A coup in Cambodia. Guns to Guatemala. For the men and women of Shorn Associates, opportunity is calling. In the superheated global village of the near future, big money is made by finding the right little war and supporting on…

While that book has it's pacing flaws I really enjoyed it. When he calls up "Langley Contracting" for "five extreme prejudice deletions" and is asked "Please indicate level of precision required from the following five options: surgical, accurate, scattershot, blanket, atrocity" I decided it was a winner. Morgan's site has a great quote that the movie option for this book was never exercised because “no-one’s going to want to play an action hero this morally compromised”.

I guess if StratFor is acquired by an investment bank you would basically have a Shorn Associates type firm.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by iamshs »

kid0m4n wrote: post #11

Oh, this is so classy: https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=8402 Quote: Oh, they have enough weapons. Now the serious game begins as Reva pointed out. The investigation of the attack is not interesting. I suspect the findings have already been reached before the first investigator got to work. Now the question is how India responds. God willing, the Indian response will make us a lot of money. This after…

Holy damn. Here is one interview of her (Reva Bhalla): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc1gJOPCipY And at the end she is linking the attack to Al Qaeda. I think this is why they are giving her kudos, for planting the seed. This is nefarious on so many levels. This means India directly comes under pressure to respond back to Pakistan, and then respond to allegations that Al Qaeda is expanding in India. It is ironic that it was one of the CIA double agent, with links to terrorist organization LeT, who conducted recce of the sites before attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Headley

India was under so much pressure to go to war at that time. Experts were gunning for surgical strikes. Imagine the pressure on bureaucrats, especially when both countries have nuclear arsenal.

Why does education/intelligence/morality not cull the inner devil of some?

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Post by Amadou »

joshfraser wrote: post #21

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?relid=402#searchresult Subject: Re: GOOGLE & Iran internal use only - pls do not forward GOOGLE is getting WH and State Dept. support & air cover. In reality, they are doing things the CIA cannot do. But, I agree with you. He's going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose GOOGLE's covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Govt…

That email thread has been public for quite a long time now and the subject of some conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, the rest of that email chain fizzles out, suggesting that it was just an opinionated off-the-cuff remark, not the result of any serious analysis. Maybe there is more in today's drop, but as of yesterday there wasn't anything particularly damning regarding that google employee.

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Post by monsterix »

kid0m4n wrote: post #11

Oh, this is so classy: https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=8402 Quote: Oh, they have enough weapons. Now the serious game begins as Reva pointed out. The investigation of the attack is not interesting. I suspect the findings have already been reached before the first investigator got to work. Now the question is how India responds. God willing, the Indian response will make us a lot of money. This after…

This makes me sick to the stomach.

I was in India when the Mumbai carnage took place. My classmate from IIT was killed the same day at the very same spot [1].

And here we have this class of a bitch thinking of making a "lot of money" off a probable war ['caged match' look at the audacity!]. No wonder they say karma is broken all over the place. On another story these same corrupt assholes have abused their power to send a whistle blower to jail and serve a 10 years term [2].

Nice going, keep it up newage SS!

[1] http://www.iitfoundation.org/?p=200

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6740652

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by cheald »

jlgreco wrote: post #18
dmix wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be a crime to link directly to a zip file containing the data in an IRC chat, as we saw with Barrett Brown [1]. That made me reconsider even posting this Wikileaks page to HN (yay chilling effect). But I'm not aware of any criminal law preventing you from reading published content on Wikileaks or submitting a link to them on a social media site. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown

Any chance they could get you for downloading copyrighted emails without a license?

IANAL, but copyright violations almost always have to do with distribution rather than downloads. They get P2P users on the technicality that to download, you also end up uploading.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by dmix »

socillion wrote: post #19
dmix wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be a crime to link directly to a zip file containing the data in an IRC chat, as we saw with Barrett Brown [1]. That made me reconsider even posting this Wikileaks page to HN (yay chilling effect). But I'm not aware of any criminal law preventing you from reading published content on Wikileaks or submitting a link to them on a social media site. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown

That zip file contained 5,000 stolen credit card numbers, along with CVVs and ID info.

Correct, he copied and pasted a link (posted by someone else) to a zip file from one chat room to another chat room, that contained 5000 cc's.

And is now facing "12 federal charges relating to identity theft and fraud" for doing so.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by monsterix »

hansjorg wrote: post #20
kid0m4n wrote: post #11

Oh, this is so classy: https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=8402 Quote: Oh, they have enough weapons. Now the serious game begins as Reva pointed out. The investigation of the attack is not interesting. I suspect the findings have already been reached before the first investigator got to work. Now the question is how India responds. God willing, the Indian response will make us a lot of money. This after…

It's just business. Conflict is extremely profitable. Unfortunately, 164 people is a drop in a bucket in an ocean.

That's not true! People who died in these five star hotels and their conference rooms were top notch entrepreneurs, executives AND ordinary people of India [1]. So 164 people who died is not just a drop in the ocean as you would like to believe here.

[1] http://www.indianexpress.com/news/yes-bank-chairman-ashok-ka...

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by r00fus »

freshhawk wrote: post #22
r00fus wrote: post #16

Is it more, or do these leaks paint StratFor as something along the lines of a "conflict investment firm" on the lines of Richard Morgan's Market Forces [1]? Jacket cover description excerpt: "A coup in Cambodia. Guns to Guatemala. For the men and women of Shorn Associates, opportunity is calling. In the superheated global village of the near future, big money is made by finding the right little war and supporting on…

While that book has it's pacing flaws I really enjoyed it. When he calls up "Langley Contracting" for "five extreme prejudice deletions" and is asked "Please indicate level of precision required from the following five options: surgical, accurate, scattershot, blanket, atrocity" I decided it was a winner. Morgan's site has a great quote that the movie option for this book was never exercised because “no-one’s going t…

It's a pity that his most popular book (Altered Carbon) hasn't been made into a movie. Now that one's a clear winner (sex, drugs, lots of bullets).
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