F-Secure Launches A Dropbox For the Dark Web And A VPN • Hacker News Board

Re: F-Secure Launches A Dropbox For the Dark Web And A VPN

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Post by woof » Fri, Nov 15, 2013, 7:34 AM UTC

mynameishere wrote: post #17

I just skimmed that at first, and really had no idea what had been said. Then I went back and really read the first couple of paragraphs. They really, really look like they were written by an automated process. I can't imagine a humanoid writing this: Quite simply, everything is encrypted, with the purpose of transferring the most basic data ownership and levels of privacy back to the control of the user, even when s…

Sounds like marketingspeak to me.

A one liner unique value proposition with cool new words like encryption and Facebook if you will...

Re: F-Secure Launches A Dropbox For the Dark Web And A VPN

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Post by woof » Fri, Nov 15, 2013, 7:39 AM UTC

eps wrote: post #2

Is this a re-launch of Younited? Just looked at its website and I can swear I saw it before, not long ago.

They have to launch it before they can do a re-launch:)

This was news late september btw.

Re: F-Secure Launches A Dropbox For the Dark Web And A VPN

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Post by LionRoar » Fri, Nov 15, 2013, 9:46 AM UTC

If someone starts about Dark Web, VPN and privacy and then states: "so if a request for your data is legitimate, F Secure will not stop a proper investigation from the authorities" it renders it immediately completely useless in my opinion.

As the last year proofs authorities are the ones that do the snooping. So if it doesn't protect us from them, what's the point of such a service. Also linking to Facebook and Skydrive that have government-backdoors seems not so private to me.

Does F-Secure really understand in which world we live in today? Oh well, neither do I, back to my coffee.

Re: F-Secure Launches A Dropbox For the Dark Web And A VPN

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Post by summerdown2 » Fri, Nov 15, 2013, 10:04 AM UTC

I'm not sure I understand what the offering is.

How does:

"everything is encrypted"

work together with:

"The Younited service automatically scans all files for malware that you add to the cloud?"

... presumably that makes it server-side encryption in which they're reserving the right to perform some manipulation of files first (virus scanning, deduplication?)?

... but if so, how can they include the statement:

"we like what dropbox and skydrive do, but where is the privacy?"

Isn't this exactly what dropbox does? I presume they will use ssl to transfer the data, perhaps even encrypt it in storage after they've scanned the plaintext, but surely this is as as vulnerable to their own staff and their government as any other service?