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Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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Thats really interesting and would add another dimension to these "self monitoring" devices but i am skeptical as too much self monitoring can do more harm than good.

DIY EEG/EMG can be used for alot of interesting applications though, if you want to play around with "mind controlling" things ;)

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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post #2

Thats really interesting and would add another dimension to these "self monitoring" devices but i am skeptical as too much self monitoring can do more harm than good. DIY EEG/EMG can be used for alot of interesting applications though, if you want to play around with "mind controlling" things ;)

I'm a physician and I agree. Obtaining data is the easy part, interpreting the data is the hard part. If you want solve interesting problems that's where you should look.

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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post #2

Thats really interesting and would add another dimension to these "self monitoring" devices but i am skeptical as too much self monitoring can do more harm than good. DIY EEG/EMG can be used for alot of interesting applications though, if you want to play around with "mind controlling" things ;)

I'm a physician and I agree. Obtaining data is the easy part, interpreting the data is the hard part. If you want solve interesting problems that's where you should look.

But you need the data first, where better to get it than yourself?

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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post #2

Thats really interesting and would add another dimension to these "self monitoring" devices but i am skeptical as too much self monitoring can do more harm than good. DIY EEG/EMG can be used for alot of interesting applications though, if you want to play around with "mind controlling" things ;)

If I could just control paredit with my face muscles, I think I'll be happy.

Edit: To be clear, there will be no actual barfing or slurping involved.

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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Misinterpreted knowledge could be more harmful then ignorance (as any hypochondriac would know), but that's not the case here - I'm really looking forward to trying to build something like this.

It's nice to see DIY moving from blinking lights to really useful and serious areas.

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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post #5
post #2

Thats really interesting and would add another dimension to these "self monitoring" devices but i am skeptical as too much self monitoring can do more harm than good. DIY EEG/EMG can be used for alot of interesting applications though, if you want to play around with "mind controlling" things ;)

If I could just control paredit with my face muscles, I think I'll be happy. Edit: To be clear, there will be no actual barfing or slurping involved.

Wink left or right to open and close the parentheses :-).

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a physician and I agree. Obtaining data is the easy part, interpreting the data is the hard part. If you want solve interesting problems that's where you should look.

But you need the data first, where better to get it than yourself?

In a larger sample, but it's usually more expensive. That being said, self experimentation is fun. Very fun :-).

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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post #2

Thats really interesting and would add another dimension to these "self monitoring" devices but i am skeptical as too much self monitoring can do more harm than good. DIY EEG/EMG can be used for alot of interesting applications though, if you want to play around with "mind controlling" things ;)

I'm a physician and I agree. Obtaining data is the easy part, interpreting the data is the hard part. If you want solve interesting problems that's where you should look.

Yes my immediate concern was that GP clinics could be inundated with the worried well who simple couldn't tell the difference between an 8K and an 80K resistor. However, I doubt many people will actually go ahead and build one of these and, quality control aside, the article does show just how relatively simply some of these devices can be made.

Generally though it does rather seem that there is going to be an increase in the amount of data that patients bring to clinic; what may appear to be little more than silly iPhone apps today might well become the important monitor tools of tomorrow. My guess is that this will create opportunities for online analysis startups to perform data triage an initial review, turning the data into something more valuable.

Re: Do-it-yourself EEG, EKG, and EMG

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There are lots of useful applications which should prove at least harmless, if not even beneficial.

For example with an EEG sensor you can do neurofeedback training to improve attention, which has been shown to help with ADHD and even epilepsy, among other things. For this purpose, the Neurosky Mindwave Mobile with its low price tag and bluetooth interface is certainly a better choice than any homegrown amplifier.

For EMG, besides controlling something, feedback training is also possible. For example when EMG sensors are attached to your shoulder muscles you can teach yourself to actually relax them. The computer can then alert you to unconscious tension building up, during typing for example.

I don't know if ECG (I think that's the correct English spelling) has been shown to be useful in biofeedback, but the trainability of heartrate is well known.

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