The Great Ivy League Nude Posture Photo Scandal (1995)

Post by Fundlab » Wed, Nov 13, 2013, 8:31 AM UTC

Post by etfb » Wed, Nov 13, 2013, 9:20 AM UTC

yetanotherphd wrote: post #56

jccc wrote: post #52

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For the benefit of those who have not read the 1995 article all the way through to the end: "As I thumbed rapidly through box after box to confirm that the entries described in the Finder's Aid were actually there, I tried to glance at only the faces. It was a decision that paid off, because it was in them that a crucial difference between the men and the women revealed itself. For the most part, the men looked diffi…

That quite well illustrates the unacknowledged privilege of women at that time. The men were so accustomed to being denied privacy, either by cultural norms at the time, or by force by the government, that being forced to undress and be photographed was nothing unusual to them. Women, on the other hand, considered this an affront, because they were not subject to either of these. Thank you for pointing this out.

Post by yetanotherphd » Wed, Nov 13, 2013, 2:48 PM UTC

etfb wrote: post #63

yetanotherphd wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That quite well illustrates the unacknowledged privilege of women at that time. The men were so accustomed to being denied privacy, either by cultural norms at the time, or by force by the government, that being forced to undress and be photographed was nothing unusual to them. Women, on the other hand, considered this an affront, because they were not subject to either of these. Thank you for pointing this out.

Or you could see it entirely the other way. In fact, I'm rather surprised that you saw it as you do. I guess it takes all sorts to make a world.

Post by nigel182 » Wed, Nov 13, 2013, 5:35 PM UTC

yetanotherphd wrote: post #56

jccc wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the benefit of those who have not read the 1995 article all the way through to the end: "As I thumbed rapidly through box after box to confirm that the entries described in the Finder's Aid were actually there, I tried to glance at only the faces. It was a decision that paid off, because it was in them that a crucial difference between the men and the women revealed itself. For the most part, the men looked diffi…

That quite well illustrates the unacknowledged privilege of women at that time. The men were so accustomed to being denied privacy, either by cultural norms at the time, or by force by the government, that being forced to undress and be photographed was nothing unusual to them. Women, on the other hand, considered this an affront, because they were not subject to either of these. Thank you for pointing this out.

Post by etler » Thu, Nov 14, 2013, 12:29 AM UTC

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #53

yongjik wrote: post #40

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Taking nude photos of an entire generation of college freshmen (without proper consent) is not scandalous? Sure, it's not at the level of secret Plutonium injection, but still...

Nonsense. All were essentially volunteers. Nobody held a gun to their head; they just put it on a schedule, and the freshmen lined up to comply. Its actually amusing; these captains of industry were such sheep when they were young. Makes you wonder when they grew a backbone, if at all.