Live data from Hacker News

HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

htc.com

41–50 of 54 posts

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#41
post #34
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's in case the battery goes boom. The bend at the bottom is an absolute dealbreaker for me.

The pictures make it look a lot worse than it actually is. I have a G1 and the bend isn't noticable unless you lay it flat on the table and look at it in profile.

+1 I don't mind it at all.

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#42
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the problem there is Apple - they don't want Flash support on the iPhone. They haven't explicitly stated so, but I think they don't want it because it would give people the ability to develop full iPhone applications that don't go through their store and approval process.

That's also why they're never going to support HTML5, client-side storage, or geo-location in Mobile Safari.

The innovation-stifling effects of browser lock-in require development to be expensive. Any compelling product in such an environment will be built to maximize revenue, which requires those products to support as wide of a consumer base as possible. This makes it difficult to build products with new technologies.

Today, development is cheap. Compelling products can be built as side projects with a minimal investment of time and money. If creators don't have to worry about making money with their creations, they're more likely to use whatever technology they feel like using.

If Mobile Safari lags behind other browsers in implementing emerging web standards, many developers will run browsers that stay current, even if they have to buy a new phone to do so. When they come up with nifty ideas that are relatively easy to build, they'll use whatever technologies they want, which will occassionally be HTML5 and friends. After normal iPhone users come across enough neat hacks that their phone can't run because their phone can't support it, they'll switch phones.

I doubt that Apple would let Mobile Safari lag behind other browsers, especially since they'll likely want desktop Safari to support emerging standards, but even if they did, it would be self-defeating.

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#44
post #39
post #2

A better (more future-safe) link would be http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/overview.html

Interesting, it says "HTC Magic" on the left navigation frame. HTC forgot to update its template?

I'd say it's more like they're also advertising their older series phones too, given the url for the page is not htc magic specific.

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#47
post #12

Why the little bend at the bottom? It doesn't seem very pocket friendly.

That's a way to protect the trackball if you lay the phone face down on a flat surface. On the G1, it is not that pocket unfriendly.

On my G1 it also protects the menu button (which also unlocks the phone from locked mode) from being pressed accidentally.

While you can configure an unlock touch gesture, I haven't bothered yet because I don't find that the menu button is being pressed accidentally in my pocket.

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#48
post #11

Does anyone know if this will be available in unlocked/developer version similar to the G1?

The bigger question is if it will be available in a locked version similar to the G1. They haven't announced carrier partners yet and HTC's direct devices are all unlocked.

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#49
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the problem there is Apple - they don't want Flash support on the iPhone. They haven't explicitly stated so, but I think they don't want it because it would give people the ability to develop full iPhone applications that don't go through their store and approval process.

That's also why they're never going to support HTML5, client-side storage, or geo-location in Mobile Safari.

Is this a joke? I honestly can't tell, because of all the following:

- Mobile Safari already supports local storage

- Mobile Safari already supports geolocation: http://geekswithblogs.net/MobileLOB/archive/2009/06/19/getti...

- Mobile Safari also already has other portions of HTML 5 implemented, such as canvas, not to mention really good coverage of css 3.

So as it turns out shipping Mobile Safari already has much better HTML 5 support than many desktop browsers. You may be able to fault iPhone and Mobile Safari a lot of things, but standards support is certainly not one of them.

Re: HTC Hero - Full Flash, Skype over 3G, custom Android UI, multitouch.

#50
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the problem there is Apple - they don't want Flash support on the iPhone. They haven't explicitly stated so, but I think they don't want it because it would give people the ability to develop full iPhone applications that don't go through their store and approval process.

That's also why they're never going to support HTML5, client-side storage, or geo-location in Mobile Safari.

Sarcasm doesn't always go over well here.
Post reply on HN