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Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)

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Re: Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)

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What's the difference between secret and confidential (honest question!)?

Confidential negotiations are good for the negotiators, because they can make bluffs and propose compromises without the public breathing down their necks, or second guessing every move. As long as the final text is public before it's put to Congress, I'm fine with that in general. My problem with the TPP is that it pretends to be a trade agreement but is really targeted at expanding intellectual property laws. The n…

The bothersome thing about these secret treaty negotiations is that they are something of an end-run around the democratic process in effected countries. In many cases, having signed on to some agreement relating to an organization like this in the past, member countries are often under some obligation to enact legislation conforming to future trade agreements these organizations write up.

Re: Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the difference between secret and confidential (honest question!)?

Confidential negotiations are good for the negotiators, because they can make bluffs and propose compromises without the public breathing down their necks, or second guessing every move. As long as the final text is public before it's put to Congress, I'm fine with that in general. My problem with the TPP is that it pretends to be a trade agreement but is really targeted at expanding intellectual property laws. The n…

In Japan, for example, the trade parts of TPP are very very important.

This is a big treaty, just saying it's about Mickey Mouse simplifies the facts.

Re: Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)

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post #20

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Secret: substance and existence is not intended to ever be disclosed. For example, PRISM, MUSCULAR, and other NSA progams revealed by Snowden. Confidential: existence is well known, substance not disclosed. In the case of the TPP, the existence is actually strongly publicized by the negotiators, and only the negotiations are confidential--the final text will be made public and debated in Congress. What is happening r…

Oh, but it's ok for the USGOV and it's "free media" to be manipulative to an extent that would make any mafia boss blush?

Did I say that? No.
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