Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here. If I remember well, LinkedIn is one of the worst offenders. I hate how much unnecessary mail they send!
So how well has that tactic worked to thwart LinkedIn so far? Have they been permabanned from sending to gmail yet? Oh, thought so.
Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
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Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#102Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#103Just press the SPAM button in your mealreader. Problem solved.
What if your mail reader doesn't have a spam button?
Otherwise, search for "your mail reader" and "mark spam" and you'll probably figure something out.
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#104Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#105Hear, hear. If you're worried about legit customers getting unsubscribed against their will (because that is TOTALLY a significant occurrence...), you can have a dual approach. Unsubscribing without authentication sends one final message which has an undo link; unsubscribing while authenticated shows a confirmation on the site instead of the inbox. I know, the "Here's an email to confirm that you hate our emails" mes…
If your unsubscribe links are something impossible to guess (e.g., " https://example.com/spam/unsubscribe?d= , randomly generated string, which is a key into your DB>"), how could someone possibly get unsubscribed against their will?
Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#106Hear, hear. If you're worried about legit customers getting unsubscribed against their will (because that is TOTALLY a significant occurrence...), you can have a dual approach. Unsubscribing without authentication sends one final message which has an undo link; unsubscribing while authenticated shows a confirmation on the site instead of the inbox. I know, the "Here's an email to confirm that you hate our emails" mes…
Do you have an example in mind of what makes that a significant occurrence?
Happens all the time, and now you've unsubscribed someone who is a high value member of the list.
Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#107Hear, hear. If you're worried about legit customers getting unsubscribed against their will (because that is TOTALLY a significant occurrence...), you can have a dual approach. Unsubscribing without authentication sends one final message which has an undo link; unsubscribing while authenticated shows a confirmation on the site instead of the inbox. I know, the "Here's an email to confirm that you hate our emails" mes…
If your unsubscribe links are something impossible to guess (e.g., " https://example.com/spam/unsubscribe?d= , randomly generated string, which is a key into your DB>"), how could someone possibly get unsubscribed against their will?
Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#108At Zapier, we jumped through a lot of extra hoops to make sure that emails are categorized and you can easily opt-out with a single click (no matter if you are logged in or not). Some emails cannot be opted out of (the only two right now are payment transactions and forgotten/reset password) but everything else can be. We have a lot of other cool stuff in emails like single click logins, viewing pixels with custom pa…
Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
The typical reason is that there's a whole host of systems that might be sending e-mail on behalf of the company, so there might be some delay (generally far less than 30 days) for it to flow through whatever integrations are set up, and hey - since there's going to be a delay anyway, why potentially shoot yourself in the foot by giving yourself less than what you're entitled to by law?
Sending unwanted email to the maximum allowed by law doesn't seem like a quality business practice.
- We have a complex series of integrations (marketing automation -> CRM system -> app -> transactional e-mail provider) (as one example) where propagation isn't real time and could take a few days (if say, each of these were propagated on a nightly batch).
- Something could go wrong with any of these.
- It's better to err on the side of caution and give a super-conservative estimate and always beat it by a huge margin, than give an accurate estimate and occasionally break it (particularly with something as sensitive as unsubscribes).
Re: Hey developers, stop forcing me to login to unsubscribe
#110Companies like LinkedIn are training users (at least me) to report as spam instead of unsubscribing because it's an exercise in futility to try to opt-out of their spam.
Then the domain block goes into place. /dev/null, auto-trash, or whatever the local filter rules support.