I like to plan a fun little game on AirBnB for this. Put in Europe as the destination, https://www.airbnb.com/s/Europe?checkin=12%2F01%2F2013&check...
Airbnb monthly prices will be considerably higher than what you can find locally though. Nevertheless is useful to do a relative comparison.
Ask HN: What's the best place in Europe to live and work cheaply?
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Re: Ask HN: What's the best place in Europe to live and work cheaply?
#112Porto, Portugal: It has a river, sea and beaches, lots of history, nice weather, great food, nice people and it's inexpensive. It also has Ryan Air, which means that you can visit other parts of Europe cheaply ( If you like a little bigger city then Lisbon, Portugal is also an option.
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#113Try Lithuania. Rent is about 180-400 EU/mo. Weather is good, not too hot, not too cold. Sun/rain ratio is nice. Cities is not too big, so during season bicycling is preferable. Also public transport is ok. Food for 2 person family is about 150 EU/mo. Streets is safe for foreigners. And Internet is super fast and super cheap here. And there is nice and informative video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPO4tbV4UHk
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#114I would go for Lisbon. It has very good and cheap flight connections to the rest of Europe (not good to the West Coast of America). Easyjet, and RyanAir fly out of Lisbon, and the national airline TAP is very good and only slightly more expensive. Very nice weather. We still have not turned on the heating yet. You can live cheaply and well. It may not be the cheapest cheapest in Europe, but is good value for money. F…
A story, that had been told to my brothers, and me since we where small, also helps explains my strong connections to Portugal: In the 1960′s my father, a journalist, was in the Congo covering the war after it’s independence from Belgium. The car he was driving had skidded off the road, and turned over. United Nation’s troops passed him by without stopping, but suddenly out of nowhere a bunch of Portuguese cigarette smugglers appeared. They dragged him out of the car into their car, then sped him across the border, and dropped him of at a hotel…
My rescuers bought me a large South African brandy at the bar, gave 500 Rothmans [cigarettes], checked my wallet to see I had enough cash, then left me, delivered back to my native culture, never to see them again. It was the first time I had met Portuguese knowingly – and my first encounter, not only with their extraordinary reaching-out to a stranger in need, but with their blend of bravado, honour, ingenuity and poise.
Extract from The First Global Village: How Portugal Changed the World, by Martin Page
Re: Ask HN: What's the best place in Europe to live and work cheaply?
#115Porto, Portugal: It has a river, sea and beaches, lots of history, nice weather, great food, nice people and it's inexpensive. It also has Ryan Air, which means that you can visit other parts of Europe cheaply ( If you like a little bigger city then Lisbon, Portugal is also an option.
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#116Dubai. - Zero taxes. You nearly double your income! - Low cost of living for a city of its caliber. Rent: - Easy to get a freelancer visa. You get freelancer visa by setting up a company in a free zone, and issuing a work visa to yourself. This can cost about $5-$7k yearly. Unlike most countries, there are no nonsensical visa rules, or caps (ahem, H1-Bs) -- you're pretty much guaranteed to get one if you apply, no qu…
Yeah but then you have to live in a totally artificial environment that is a living monument to consumerism.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best place in Europe to live and work cheaply?
#117Dubai. - Zero taxes. You nearly double your income! - Low cost of living for a city of its caliber. Rent: - Easy to get a freelancer visa. You get freelancer visa by setting up a company in a free zone, and issuing a work visa to yourself. This can cost about $5-$7k yearly. Unlike most countries, there are no nonsensical visa rules, or caps (ahem, H1-Bs) -- you're pretty much guaranteed to get one if you apply, no qu…
I've visited Dubai before, and actually really really liked it. The fact that there was so much diversity was interesting. Seems to be a lot of cool things happening as well - Startup Weekends, Make hub, etc. Food was great as well.
I also looked into getting a visa. The $5-7k for the freelance visa - is that with the Dubai Internet City free zone? Technically you can't work from home with those, or do business with non free zone companies right?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah but then you have to live in a totally artificial environment that is a living monument to consumerism.
For a lot of us outside USA, that sentence would describe several cities in America.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best place in Europe to live and work cheaply?
#119Porto, Portugal: It has a river, sea and beaches, lots of history, nice weather, great food, nice people and it's inexpensive. It also has Ryan Air, which means that you can visit other parts of Europe cheaply ( If you like a little bigger city then Lisbon, Portugal is also an option.
Another important point is that the telecom infrastructure is pretty good. These days getting a 100down/10up Mb/s fiber link will cost you 20-40€ a month, you can get a TV+Internet+Mobile bundle for ~80€ and the urban areas have good coverage of both fiber and 3G/LTE.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best place in Europe to live and work cheaply?
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another important point is that the telecom infrastructure is pretty good. These days getting a 100down/10up Mb/s fiber link will cost you 20-40€ a month, you can get a TV+Internet+Mobile bundle for ~80€ and the urban areas have good coverage of both fiber and 3G/LTE.
Is it easy to get an apartment? Also, can you get around without speaking Portuguese?
Most of the younger generation (30 or less) will speak decent English, older people will be mixed. Porto has been getting touristic lately though so most public places should be used to it. We don't dub movies so we tend to have a bit more exposure to the language than most (plus you can go to the movies).