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GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

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Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

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Their mirrors system is working very well. It's very easy to distribute big files (like ISO images) through Sourceforge's mirrors. No wonder that Adobe's leaked users database was (or still is) being distributed using Sourceforge mirrors.

i cant imagine that it's better than torrent

most companies block torrent downloads.

edit - I mean when at work, I can't torrent any large ova's or iso's. Sadly fortune 500 america will hardly ever allow torrent through their firewall for obvious reasons.

Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

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That article gets a lot of things very wrong as I pointed out when it was posted on HN last time (you'll see my comment at the top): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6262347 Github is an option for some folks but not for us. We need solid file hosting with lots of bandwidth (pushing well over 50TB a month at SF) that will be sticking around next month and next year. In my comment linked above, I mention that Gith…

You should then consider a better host. SourceForge is clearly a scamware host now; maybe ever since Dice.com took over. And to be honest, just seeing a file hosted on SourceForge casts doubts on the quality of the app. - Most users just click OK for installers, it is like the EULA - I am yet to see a toolbar that does anything useful to anybody; other than make their system slower and buggy. I hold a very low opinio…

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Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

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post #19

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That article gets a lot of things very wrong as I pointed out when it was posted on HN last time (you'll see my comment at the top): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6262347 Github is an option for some folks but not for us. We need solid file hosting with lots of bandwidth (pushing well over 50TB a month at SF) that will be sticking around next month and next year. In my comment linked above, I mention that Gith…

You should then consider a better host. SourceForge is clearly a scamware host now; maybe ever since Dice.com took over. And to be honest, just seeing a file hosted on SourceForge casts doubts on the quality of the app. - Most users just click OK for installers, it is like the EULA - I am yet to see a toolbar that does anything useful to anybody; other than make their system slower and buggy. I hold a very low opinio…

Note the only thing particularly special that SourceForge did however is the "bait and switch" part where they change the filename downloaded.

Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

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The link in the article sums up the "what happened to Sourceforge" pretty well: http://www.gluster.org/2013/08/how-far-the-once-mighty-sourc... The OSS project I maintained for several years was always in the top 10 downloaded lists on Sourceforge, but I got frustrated with how things were going and eventually moved the code to Github and hosted a simple website on my own. Honestly, I can't think of a reason why an O…

That article gets a lot of things very wrong as I pointed out when it was posted on HN last time (you'll see my comment at the top): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6262347 Github is an option for some folks but not for us. We need solid file hosting with lots of bandwidth (pushing well over 50TB a month at SF) that will be sticking around next month and next year. In my comment linked above, I mention that Gith…

OT, but I wonder if SourceForge would create an Enterprise Edition again.

Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

#27
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article gets a lot of things very wrong as I pointed out when it was posted on HN last time (you'll see my comment at the top): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6262347 Github is an option for some folks but not for us. We need solid file hosting with lots of bandwidth (pushing well over 50TB a month at SF) that will be sticking around next month and next year. In my comment linked above, I mention that Gith…

You should then consider a better host. SourceForge is clearly a scamware host now; maybe ever since Dice.com took over. And to be honest, just seeing a file hosted on SourceForge casts doubts on the quality of the app. - Most users just click OK for installers, it is like the EULA - I am yet to see a toolbar that does anything useful to anybody; other than make their system slower and buggy. I hold a very low opinio…

(I shall ignore the toolbar installation matter; that has been discussed at length in the linked thread and there is little value in continuing that here.)

> You should then consider a better host.

Very well then; step one: identify a better host where PortableApps.com can get over 50TB per month for free. I'm not aware of any other than SourceForge which would do such a thing and John does not have the money to spend on commercial rates for such bandwidth. (Incidentally, donations are always welcome at PortableApps.com, because the rest of the infrastructure does still cost money, and quite a considerable amount.)

Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

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Amazon Route 53 has a feature called Latency Based Routing , which you can use to distribute traffic to your own mirrors. With AWS, Rackspace and other similar cheap hosting, I see no reason for a SourceForge. By the way, SourceForge, Freecode (aka Freshmeat) and Slashdot were all acquired by Dice.com in September 2012.

The GIMP uses an awful lot of bandwidth monthly, well into the terabytes monthly, I believe. PortableApps.com is another project and one which I know much more about due to my involvement; it goes through over 50TB per month and with something like S3 that is already well over $5,000 per month at a minimum. No reason for SourceForge?

Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

#29
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should then consider a better host. SourceForge is clearly a scamware host now; maybe ever since Dice.com took over. And to be honest, just seeing a file hosted on SourceForge casts doubts on the quality of the app. - Most users just click OK for installers, it is like the EULA - I am yet to see a toolbar that does anything useful to anybody; other than make their system slower and buggy. I hold a very low opinio…

(I shall ignore the toolbar installation matter; that has been discussed at length in the linked thread and there is little value in continuing that here.) > You should then consider a better host. Very well then; step one: identify a better host where PortableApps.com can get over 50TB per month for free. I'm not aware of any other than SourceForge which would do such a thing and John does not have the money to spen…

I get that. But somebody must be paying for 50TB, right? It is paid for by users who inadvertently installed bundled *-ware.

Edit: I am not saying portableapps.com is at fault here for using this free facility. SourceForge is, for their business model.

Re: GIMP Windows Installers move from Sourceforge to ftp.gimp.org

#30
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I shall ignore the toolbar installation matter; that has been discussed at length in the linked thread and there is little value in continuing that here.) > You should then consider a better host. Very well then; step one: identify a better host where PortableApps.com can get over 50TB per month for free. I'm not aware of any other than SourceForge which would do such a thing and John does not have the money to spen…

I get that. But somebody must be paying for 50TB, right? It is paid for by users who inadvertently installed bundled *-ware. Edit: I am not saying portableapps.com is at fault here for using this free facility. SourceForge is, for their business model.

Note that it is completely optional for a project to participate however.
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