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Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by nitrogen »

dragonshed wrote: post #209
0X1A wrote: post #193

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That is completely subjective. A lot of people hate Unity, the same way people hate every DE that exists. So much so that some do not even use a DE. Using a DE as an argument for Ubuntu's advantage is weak as they're usually ambiguous. I say usually because it tends to be that Unity, like Mir, isn't really adopted into any other distribution in official repositories. Even more so after Mir's release, since it'll be d…

Aesthetic and taste are subjective, effective and coherent visual design is not.

However, the distinction between "aesthetic" and "design" is once again subjective.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by Nursie »

danielweber wrote: post #192
Nursie wrote: post #47

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Yeah, sound on Linux can still be an absolute arse, which is surprising to still have to say in 2013. I have no idea how to make my system detect headphone insertion and switch output without a bunch of manual steps. That said I've had problems trying to get windows doing 5.1 sound over HDMI too. Gnome configs are only an issue if you still use gnome :) In general things are moving to a more "it's all done for you" w…

> Gnome configs are only an issue if you still use gnome :) See, that's the problem. The old system is abandoned and I have to decide "is it worth learning the brand new system?" Keep in mind this brand new system will not be used in 5 years, either. I also don't sit around watching the forum discussions so when someone says "oh you need to uninstall gnome and install farknootz" I just say huh .

Gnome isn't abandoned, but it took a controversial UI direction, much like Win 8.

On Linux at least we have choice.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by mayneack »

prg318 wrote: post #194
keithpeter wrote: post #186

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I thought MATE was the Gnome 2 fork, and Cinnamon was based on GTK3? Disclaimer: don't use either, I use CentOS on the serious work machine and Debian (non-free) on the playpad.

You are correct: MATE is the GNOME 2 fork that uses GTK2. Cinnamon is a modified version of GNOME3 that uses GTK3 and provides extensions to the GNOME3 desktop so that the default desktop looks and feels like a default GNOME2 desktop. Linux Mint uses Cinnamon.

Linux Mint also uses Mate.

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2366

Cinnamon is listed first, but Mate is much more of an equal player here than something like xubuntu is compared to ubuntu.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by johnsea »

zx2c4 wrote: post #216
johnsea wrote: post #213

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But Ubuntu looks good (imo) and is comparatively easy. Hope many Apple/Windows users switch to it. Big step in the right direction. Apps 'uncomplicated' software and I think it is very necessary that there is a mainstream Linux distribution which focusses on 'uncomplicated' computing. 'Privacy' be damned. At least as long as one can configure settings as easy as is the case here. (Privacy quoted as I cannot see the p…

Plenty of other distros are easy and look good too. Gentoo isn't one of them, but a few others on that list are pretty okay...

I know, but Gentoo is by far the most interesting. - The others feel like a downgrade/hassle from Ubuntu (I love unity, 'pretty okay' is not good enough). Tried Debian (which we use for servers) but had problems with my labtop, Suse I used before Debian, Fedora/CentOS ok but has the 'wrong packet manager', Mint, mmh, another fork). Maybe Ubuntu does some compromises but I don't see pits.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by rodolphoarruda »

pritambaral wrote: post #98
rodolphoarruda wrote: post #81

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What's wrong with Nautilus? I'm just curious.

GNOME (the devs, not the libraries or shell) is what's wrong with nautilus. They kept removing useful features. That was the very reason why Nemo was forked in the first place.

I'm giving Nemo a try. It's nice to be able to open files as root. And it seems a bit lighter than Nautilus.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by zx2c4 »

johnsea wrote: post #225
zx2c4 wrote: post #216

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Plenty of other distros are easy and look good too. Gentoo isn't one of them, but a few others on that list are pretty okay...

I know, but Gentoo is by far the most interesting. - The others feel like a downgrade/hassle from Ubuntu (I love unity, 'pretty okay' is not good enough). Tried Debian (which we use for servers) but had problems with my labtop, Suse I used before Debian, Fedora/CentOS ok but has the 'wrong packet manager', Mint, mmh, another fork). Maybe Ubuntu does some compromises but I don't see pits.

If you've got the time, Gentoo is very rewarding indeed.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by mdellabitta »

johnsea wrote: post #208
mdellabitta wrote: post #201

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Honestly, the world doesn't owe Canonical a business model. They don't get to do whatever they like and not suffer criticism.

And you feel proud to use a well polished system that Canonical prepared for you without paying? Motto: I have my OS, it's free & I owe nothing, Canonical can look for themself? The alternative (well polished, reasonably easy/user friendly) is apple and windows. No more free. I think much criticism is shallow.

Nope, I don't use Ubuntu.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by antihero »

zx2c4 wrote: post #227
johnsea wrote: post #225

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I know, but Gentoo is by far the most interesting. - The others feel like a downgrade/hassle from Ubuntu (I love unity, 'pretty okay' is not good enough). Tried Debian (which we use for servers) but had problems with my labtop, Suse I used before Debian, Fedora/CentOS ok but has the 'wrong packet manager', Mint, mmh, another fork). Maybe Ubuntu does some compromises but I don't see pits.

If you've got the time, Gentoo is very rewarding indeed.

I used to use Gentoo, but I figured Arch follows the build-your-own philosophy and has the added benefit of not having to wait for everything to build all the time.

I like both distros, but would you say there's any significant reason to switch back? Noticeable speed/stability difference?

Gentoo did fork udev, but I'm honestly fine with systemd for my desktop.

Re: Fix Ubuntu

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Post by zx2c4 »

antihero wrote: post #229
zx2c4 wrote: post #227

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If you've got the time, Gentoo is very rewarding indeed.

I used to use Gentoo, but I figured Arch follows the build-your-own philosophy and has the added benefit of not having to wait for everything to build all the time. I like both distros, but would you say there's any significant reason to switch back? Noticeable speed/stability difference? Gentoo did fork udev, but I'm honestly fine with systemd for my desktop.

I like USE flags and disabling at compile time code I don't want. Keeps dependencies way down. Fewer packages, leaner system. I don't mind compiling. Hell, on my Ivy Bridge, compiling/emerging most packages is faster than apt-get in Ubuntu!
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